1-2 buttons for paladin tanking?

[Hachoo]

Ok so I have a 64 paladin - I got my 5 shamans up to 70 already and now I'm trying to power my paladin up to act as a pve tank when needed. I'm sort of fixing my macros as I go, and so far its working OK but I know once I get to end game instances and/or heroics these aren't going to be sufficient.

Heres what I have so far:

F1 - tanking macro
/startattack
/castsequence reset=6/combat Avenger's Shield,Holy Shield,Consecration - Hit this once to pull mobs, and then twice more when they've almost arrived to set up the initial aggro generation. Also as needed throughout combat

mod:ctrl
/cast [target=targettarget] Righteous Defense (going from memory I think thats the name of the spell) - This one doesn't seem to work - the way I understand righteous defense is that it pulls mobs targeting a friendly onto the paladin, so if I'm targeting an enemy and I cast the spell on targettarget (assuming the enemy is targeting a partymember), then it should cast this spell on the party member and the enemy should start attacking me, right? It doesn't work. Looks like its targetting the friendly ok but the enemy never attacks my paladin.

mod:alt
/cast Hammer of Wrath

mod:shift
/cast Hammer of Justice

Ok so this is all I'm using right now. Aside from righteous defense it works ok but I know it won't be enough in the future. For one it doesn't use any seals or judgements which I'm sure would generate a bunch of extra aggro.

Anyone want to comment at all about how they set up their paladin for tanking? I didn't want to put this in the macro forum because I figured it went beyond macros as it could be any advice on paladins. Any input would be appreciated.

[Drizzit]

/cast [target=targettarget] Righteous Defense (going from memory I think thats the name of the spell) - This one doesn't seem to work - the way I understand righteous defense is that it pulls mobs targeting a friendly onto the paladin, so if I'm targeting an enemy and I cast the spell on targettarget (assuming the enemy is targeting a partymember), then it should cast this spell on the party member and the enemy should start attacking me, right? It doesn't work. Looks like its targetting the friendly ok but the enemy never attacks my paladin.


mobs can resist Righteous Defense... you macro looks good though.

Just wish that you could use this spell on players, it would make pvp so much easier on my shams.

[ChaoticMonk]

Isnt it target=targetstarget (with an 's' in the middle)? Also, you'll probbaly want to look into using your seals+ judgment. Seal of Rightousness generates lots of holy damage for continues agro.

[Aethon]

If your pally's going to be your main, you could try something like this:

#showtooltip Righteous Defense
/cast [target=mouseover,help,nodead][help,nodead][target=targettarget,help,nodead]Righteous Defense


I use it all the time on mine. It's from wowwiki, pally marcos section. There's also another one for using focus (i.e. set your healer as focus)

[Kyudo]

Palla tanking macros ('http://www.dual-boxing.com/forums/index.php?page=Thread&postID=53984&highlight=macro#post53984')

This was a similar post I did a few months back.

[Pringle]

Bind the following to the same key you use for your dps rotation. Instant one-button tank/pew pew skill. I've gone all the way through kara and people never knew I was playing 3 characters at once.
/castsequence reset=10 Consecration, Holy Shield, Judgement, Seal of Righteousness

I use this for pulling. After the pull, I'll manually go through the above rotation once to get an agro lead, then it's spam the dps button until everything is dead.

/cast [mod:Ctrl]Exorcism;Avenger's Shield

For Righteous Defense, I had trouble getting the wowwiki macro to work. My ghetto version is something like:

/target targettarget
/cast Righteous Defense
/targetlasttarget
It's not elegant, but it works everytime it needs to. Just target the mob that's running towards someone else and press this. I've got it bound to a mouse thumb button for easy access.

[shaeman]

I unbound the keys on my paladin and just click the buttons.

I don't really do anything fancier than the macros do.

In fact it might result in my holy shield being active more of the time.

As far as righteous defense goes - I believe if you have a mob targetted it will taunt that mob and a couple of others who have the same target to come to you. If you target a player it should taunt a few of the mobs on that target to come to you.

[Drizzit]

As far as righteous defense goes - I believe if you have a mob targetted it will taunt that mob and a couple of others who have the same target to come to you. If you target a player it should taunt a few of the mobs on that target to come to you.
Righteous defense will only taunt 3 mobs at are attacking a player. You have to cast it on a player. That is why people set up macros, so when you are fighting a mob and a party member pulls you are already targeting the mob so you use target of target to get the mob back on you (target=targettarget)

[Steph]

You do not want avenger's shield or anything else with a cast time in the tanking macro.
You can not dodge, parry or block while casting a spell with cast time - which is not something you want when tanking.
Split pulling and Holy Shield and Consecration spam and you should be good to go.

If you are using your shaman along the pally, consider getting imp judgement of the crusader, adding another 3% crit fo the party.

[Hachoo]

Thanks for the advice everyone, this gives me a few really good tips to go off of that will make tanking easier. I think I will put judgement and seal of righteousness in my main macro, and take out avenger's shield for a different button for pulling only. I will probably modify my righteous defense macro also since my paladin is my main when I'm using her.

Going to run underbog tonight probably so I'll test it all out then!

[Duane]

Palla tanking macros ('http://www.dual-boxing.com/forums/index.php?page=Thread&postID=53984&highlight=macro#post53984')

This was a similar post I did a few months back.

Good info there, definitely something I'll look into when I progress to heroics.

[Ughmahedhurtz]

I don't have mine in front of me, but my pally is basically one button for ranged pulls, one button for CC and one button for maintaining aggro.

Ranged button just has avenger's shield on it.
CC button has hammer of justice.
Aggro button has the following macro:

/cast [mod:shift] righteous defense
/castrandom [nomod] consecration, holy shield, exorcism, hammer of wrath

I basically just spam the button, which is the same button as my DPS macro on my alts. Hold shift if I lose aggro, then continue normally. Pretty brain-dead simple.

Since I play this guy as my main, I use ClassButtons for seals/blessings and just click the seal/judgement buttons as needed depending on whether I need mana or heals or more holy dmg, etc.

[Razman]

I have my team to 70, 4 shamans and a pally tank shamans include 1 resto. I personally dont bother with any macros whatsoever for my pally. I play it seperately because tbh using macros on a pally is kind of like using a brain surgeon to fix your tyre. I link all my shammys into macros and free play the pally I find myself using 3 buttons abilities after buffs on the pally. The pull frisbee, consecrate and holy shield . Maybe seal of the crusader too generate more holy aggro if im feeling funky. Most times on trash I dont even use consecrate because a pally creates aggro from thin air it seems sometimes and consecrate uses a ton of mana. I like this type of play because Im basically single boxing with a multi box team with me. Allows for a bit more freedom to have the tank independant from the macro tie ins too making it more fun.

[JRuss2k]

Righteous defense will only taunt 3 mobs at are attacking a player. You have to cast it on a player. That is why people set up macros, so when you are fighting a mob and a party member pulls you are already targeting the mob so you use target of target to get the mob back on you (target=targettarget)

This used to be required now it is not necessary. You can target the mob and it works just like targettarget.

[TheBigBB]

I actually don't even macro it my pally's tanking at all. I feel like that's the one character I want 100% full control of in every way.

[valkry]

If your pally is going to be your main, try getting a hotbar addon like bartender or w/e, then just click your pallies abilities and hotkey for all your shammies attacks/heals. Just make sure you have all your paladin's abilities unbounded lol.

[Naylix]

You do not want avenger's shield or anything else with a cast time in the tanking macro.
You can not dodge, parry or block while casting a spell with cast time - which is not something you want when tanking.
Split pulling and Holy Shield and Consecration spam and you should be good to go.

If you are using your shaman along the pally, consider getting imp judgement of the crusader, adding another 3% crit fo the party.

Slightly offtopic: I'm pretty sure I have dodged lots of stuff, while casting and thus avoided getting my cast-bar pushed back. However, parry and blocking definately doesn't work.

[Griznah]

You do not want avenger's shield or anything else with a cast time in the tanking macro.
You can not dodge, parry or block while casting a spell with cast time - which is not something you want when tanking.
Split pulling and Holy Shield and Consecration spam and you should be good to go.

If you are using your shaman along the pally, consider getting imp judgement of the crusader, adding another 3% crit fo the party.

Slightly offtopic: I'm pretty sure I have dodged lots of stuff, while casting and thus avoided getting my cast-bar pushed back. However, parry and blocking definately doesn't work.
Spellcasting does in fact make you unable to dodge, block and parry. The exception are instantcasts. Not getting pushback might be due to other reasons.

[Kulzor]

I use almost the same /castsequence as above with Judgement, Seal of Righteousness, Consecration, Holy Shield in it.

For a while I had Hammer of Justice in there, and found that when it was on cooldown it would get the macro "stuck" and stop working. Make sure you don't do that... I also put /use 13 and /use 14 before the /castsequence to ensure I get my trinkets off every time I can.