UNCLE! UNCLE!! I GIVE!! NO MORE!!!

[mike6934]

Ok...I stopped at the 7 hour mark of researching this forum and the vboxing forum. bought keyclone, bought KaVooM, downloaded autohotkey, downloaded hotkeynet. 7 hours lost that I could simply be doing /f on my alt to my main and just killing things in WoW.

Scope: World of Warcraft - 2 high end gaming computers (duo 2, quad core, 8gb ddr2, yadda yadda yadda), 2 accounts, one wow window open each computer. different size/resolution monitors.

Purpose: Take lvl 70 feral druid on account #1 and power level lvl 60 pally on account #2. (note: /f was easy but now the mobs are getting a little harder to solo with an aggro magnet tagging along)

Action: On Druid character (first computer, wow window), click and release the left mouse button one time on icon in toolbar slot #1 (left to right on bottom of screen). Ex: empty macro or heck, Mangle even. (just choices, I know it can only be one)

Result: will tell my Pally character (second computer, wow window) to activate his icon in his toolbar slot #1. Ex: target druid and cast consecrate or Flash of Light. (just choices, I know it can only be one)

Any simple ideas to get me started in the right direction? For those that want the satisfaction of knowing I am literally banging my head on the keyboard and causing physical damage to myself, please put in a link to another thread on this forum that I have probably already read but did not understand.

Apologies to easily offended liberals, non meant.

Kenosis - Bronzebeard Alliance

[Apophysis]

First, let me make sure I understand your question:

You have accountA (70 druid on comp1) and accountB (60paladin on comp2). You want to powerlevel the paladin and also use the him/her as a buff & heal bot. Correct? Furthermore, you want to pass "actions" to accountB via mouse clicks instead of keystrokes. Correct?

Couple of questions: how many keyclone licenses did you purchase? You would need two if you use Keyclone (one for each computer obviously).

Keyclone can indeed pass mouse clicks. See this thread ('http://www.dual-boxing.com/forums/index.php?page=Thread&postID=115850&highlight=broadcast+mouse+click#post115850') for starters.

HotKeyNet can also pass mouse clicks. See this thread ('http://www.dual-boxing.com/forums/index.php?page=Thread&postID=68404&highlight=broadcast+mouse#post68404') for startes.

Basically, you need to pass a keystroke string via mouse click to accountB on comp2. So "leftmouse" would be translated to "1" for example on accountB, comp2. On accountB, comp2 you would place a macro on actionbar 1, slot 1 (the default keybinding is "1"). That macro would be some variation of:

/target party1
/cast Flash of Light

For the /target piece you can target by name, party, focus, etc. Whatever works for your setup.

Hope that helps you get started. Reply back if you have further questions or need clarification.

[gorram]

I'm afraid (virtually) everyone here uses keybinds, not mouseclicks, to use abilities. Keyclone and their ilk are based on the principle that the vast majority of what you do to control your character(s) involves the keyboard, and the mouse is just for movement. I'm not saying it's impossible to do it your way, but I suspect you're multiboxing life will be much easier in the long run if you take the time now (painful as it might be for a few hours/days) to reprogram yourself into casting with the keyboard.

[Ellay]

Ya, you need to use your keyboard instead of the mouse to send keystrokes, it's just not as effective and it's hard to emulate the mouse.

[Vyndree]

Ok...I stopped at the 7 hour mark of researching this forum and the vboxing forum.

Awws. :D

Just an FYI, I have a forum mostly for back & forth discussion about blog topics and articles of mine. If you have specific questions it's usually best to post on Dual-boxing (which you did, but I'm just clarifying). :) You'll get a must faster response time and more all-around knowledge since I only know about the stuff I've had to deal with as a hardware boxer.



bought keyclone, bought KaVooM, downloaded autohotkey, downloaded hotkeynet.

Whoa, slow down -- are you trying to run them all at the same time?

If you've bought keyclone already, I'd suggest trying to get that one set up since you've already invested. Keyclone (Rob) on the forums here is awfully good with support.

In any case -- were you able to actively get anything to transmit to both screens using any of these products? The easiest way to tell is to just start up two WoW sessions and hit "spacebar". If you see both characters jump, you've got it set up correctly.


Scope: World of Warcraft - 2 high end gaming computers (duo 2, quad core, 8gb ddr2, yadda yadda yadda), 2 accounts, one wow window open each computer. different size/resolution monitors.

You might also want to try Synergy (with broadcasting) and/or Multibox. These two products are designed for sending keypresses over your home network to multiple PCs. I've personally used Multibox when I was first dabbling in multiboxing -- it's great to get a mouse to move between screens.

For multibox, just start up one client per PC, and start up the server on one machine. Set a keybinding for keyboard broadcasting. On the two client programs, put your server machine's name in the little textbox.


Purpose: Take lvl 70 feral druid on account #1 and power level lvl 60 pally on account #2. (note: /f was easy but now the mobs are getting a little harder to solo with an aggro magnet tagging along)
Consider leaving the lowbie in one spot and dragging mobs back to the pally with the higher level alt. As long as you're killing red mobs (i.e. 5+levels higher) you will get max kill XP. That being said, quest XP is amazing these days and you will likely level faster by helping the lowbie complete quests than you will just through kill XP.


Action: On Druid character (first computer, wow window), click and release the left mouse button one time on icon in toolbar slot #1 (left to right on bottom of screen). Ex: empty macro or heck, Mangle even. (just choices, I know it can only be one)

Clicking only works (and in a very nonreliable way since mouse movement is relative rather than absolute) if you have a MOUSE multiplexer. Multibox/Synergy can do this, but it's very unreliable. Try to get used to keybindings on your keyboard, or alternately assign mouse buttons to keys in the WoW menu->keybindings interface.


Apologies to easily offended liberals, non meant.

Don't let us scare you away from honest questions. Particularly in the newbie forums. People only tend to harass those who post in the wrong forum or if their question had been asked often enough that it was present and easily found in multiple stickies.

[Coltimar]

I have a question. Why are you using 2 computers? To me it seems 1 will do what you are wanting. I think you could even run 5 copies of WoW easily on one machine like what you have.

[elsegundo]

I have a question. Why are you using 2 computers? To me it seems 1 will do what you are wanting. I think you could even run 5 copies of WoW easily on one machine like what you have.i agree. with two instances of WoW on one computer, especially the computer he's listed, it would make great use of the ONE registration of keyclone. and that's basically all he needs. =]
no need for two computers in this case.

[mike6934]

*Bangs Head on Keyboard Repeatedly*

I am not sure how the thread digressed to why I am using 2 machines from how do I get mouse clicks to click on both screens, but alllllrighty then, lets turn this boat around cap'n and head'er back to port.

I have now turned off the other computer and am now running 2 accounts from one wow installed directory (any bets on the threads from that?)

I have turned on keyclone and for the most part I am the proverbial button clicker..... Yeah!! (well, not really yeah).

so now it seems I am going to have to go back to the beginning and learn how:

A. I only want the pally to cast a few spells (mostly buff druid, buff pally, group buffs, heal his butt, heal my butt, and a few "OH S#!+" buttons as well as follow, mount up and hearth). other than that I want him to stand there and look stupid (much like I am now, only I'm in a sitting position : ).

B. The auto logon, auto accept invite and auto accept quests are all nice frilly diabetic shock icing on the cake. I will deal with those later.

so now. my 30,124 armor, 15,600 life, 415 defense, 26% dodge feral druid (2500 AP, 33% crit) can now level with only needing occassional heals from the pally. If the aggro magnet pally gets...well....aggro, he can CHA with some "OH $#~+ buttons.

soooooooooo... I posted about noon today. so 8 hours testing + 13 hours testing other programs/configs + 9 hours of research = 30 hours. Current unofficial record to /f power level an alt from 1-70: 46 hours. <SIGH>

Remaining (known) work: get pally to ignore every single button but 1-0, -, = and get my druid to ignore 1-0, -, =.

"Did you see the body? Assumption is the mother of all F-Ups" - Travis Dane: Under Seige 2, Dark Territory ;(

[Apophysis]

To ignore: either unbind the keys altogether, don't place spells on the actionbar where those are bound, or use Keyclone with keymappings.

Also, don't worry about how long it takes. Think how difficult & time consuming it has been for thus of us that started this hobby before this site existed. :)

[thinus]

soooooooooo... I posted about noon today. so 8 hours testing + 13 hours testing other programs/configs + 9 hours of research = 30 hours. Current unofficial record to /f power level an alt from 1-70: 46 hours. <SIGH>

Welcome to multi boxing. Wait until you 5-box and decide to change your targeting strategy. What I learned from my own multi-boxing experiences:

plan plan plan, a sound strategy beforehand will save you numerous headaches later on
multi-boxing is not an easy mode fast leveling service unless you already leveled a similiar team
macro everything
plan your keybinds thoroughly
editing macros x5 sucks
trying to edit a macro on a tiny clone window doesn't work very well
do not hold down the arrow key to move the cursor in the macro editor when you are editing the macros of all your characters at once

[Steph]

I think you are making the whole thing too complex.

As Vryndee said, just get one (1) broadcast software running on your Quad-core system.
Look at your keyboard. Find buttons for the pally around the buttons you use to play your druid. The F-key row comes to mind.
Edit the keyboard mappings of your pally. Unbind basically everything. Bind F1-F12 to Actionbar1 Slot 1-12.

Put the stuff you want your pally to do in the action bar and find out what you want there.

I'd recommend to go for heal macros with pre-defined target, such as /cast [target=DRUIDNAME] flash of light, and make them for both chars.
In addition to that, you want to have a button for /follow druid, mounting up and drinking+eating.

[aNiMaL]

It can also help to start white-listing the keys you do want to pass.

I started with blacklisting,
but halfway there seemed to be a few key combinations which activated a macro when I didn't want it to.

For example:
Whenever I use my chain lightning macro and I'm moving backwards on my main at the same time my sound turns off.
logic:
CTRL+2 is my CL macro,
CTRL+S = sound off (still got wasd for movement on my main)
This is one which won't be covered by blacklisting, but it serves well as an example.

[zanthor]

You might also want to try Synergy (with broadcasting) Synergy has problems with right click...

Remaining (known) work: get pally to ignore every single button but 1-0, -, = and get my druid to ignore 1-0, -, =.This is a trick to do with KeyClone, however it is quite possible to accomplish something similar.

The first thing you can look at is white or black listing. I personally use White Listing because there is less I want to pass than there is that I want to block. This is found in keyclones settings under do-not-pass. If you want to pick the characters you pass (turning do-not-pass into a "pass only") you check the white-list box and enter the keys you want passed, otherwise get typing on the blacklist. I find it works best with the strict box checked for whitelisting, and I suspect it works best without it checked for blacklisting.

Ok, now the bad news, you can't press a button on the focused client WITHOUT it going to that client using KeyClone (You could with AHK and I think you can with HotKeyNet). Since KeyClone seems to be the path you are headed down I'll focus there, and to accomplish what you want there are really two choices...

Choice 1: Leave the pally be, play the druid and unbind keys 1-0,-,= since you sound like you are a clicker anyhow. You can then click to your hearts content on the druid abilities, and press the hotkeys for the pally to obey orderes and follow you about. Since you are running off one copy of wow make sure you check the box that says character specific bindings.

Choice 2: This choice is ideal for being able to play either character and having 1-0,-,= work as normal on the character you are focused on, however it will require a fair bit more work. You would need to pick other keys to press instead of 1-0,-,= on the druid and hotstring map them to the right keys... A set of keys generally unused is your numberpad 1-0,.,+ and would work nicely. You would need to create two keymap files, on the druids keymap you would have something like a hostring that for the key NumPad1 says "druidsays1" and on the paladin you would have the same thing but with the normal number 1. This way when the druid client is focused you would press NumPad1 and the pally would instead press normal 1. As long as numpad 1 isn't bound on the druid, all is golden.

[mike6934]

Thanks for all the posts, especially Vyndree (hope you didnt have to take out a home equity for that setup you have ;) ! and the last 2 posters, steph and animal. I have gleaned bits and pieces from you all and have gotten the pally to follow, hearth, mount, heal self, heal druid, big heal self, big heal druid, salv self, might druid, bubble bubble bubble and lay hands and DI. Should be enough for now. I must mention a lesson learned the hard way: log the alt on first and the main second. That way when you are typing the ID and Password, keyclone does not perform a /say IDPassword in chat on your WoW main !!!! :pinch:

and to the guys who had an arcf fit on me using 2 machines: thanks, now my 9800 is overheating and I have to look for cooling solutions 8|

Kenosis - 70 SP, Icemncometh - 70 MM Hunter, Galadrieal - 70 feral druid: Bronzebeard Alliance, Serenity Knights Guild #11 on realm from wowjitsu

"Never enough time to do it right, always enough time to do it over" - unknown

wait, what I meant to say was "There's never enough time to do it right, but there's always enough time to do it over"

no wait, what I really meant to say was........

[Vyndree]

I think almost everyone has done the "oops! I was broadcasting my password!" snafu at least once in their multiboxing career. ;)

Glad you've gotten things working! I know it's a bit late since it looks like you've got youself where you want to be, but you can always take a look at my article on multiple classes ('http://www.v-boxing.net/v/tiki-read_article.php?articleId=23') if you want to find more ways to pair up abilties between your two different classes.

This video ('http://www.v-boxing.net/v/tiki-read_article.php?articleId=19') also shows a very basic setup, and I probably should've linked it earlier but I was under the impression that you were still having multiplexer software issues. ;)

Sometimes it's simpler to run things on one machine (what with the many features of software multiplexers) to get a hang of things, then move to multiple PCs (if you choose). I say, if you've got the PCs why not use them, eh? ;) My first multiboxing "rig" was just a bunch of old college PCs and laptops all linked together via Multibox (the software). Once I got hooked with that, I invested in my (somewhat excessive) full hardware rig. Keyclone DOES have the ability to send keypresses over the network as well so there's always room for you to expand.

Welcome to the hobby!

[Ghrizzle]

That way when you are typing the ID and Password, keyclone does not perform a /say IDPassword in chat on your WoW main !!!! :pinch:






Hmmm...... there's a DNP or do not pass set up you might want to look into add your WASD, as we;; as "/" and any other keys you don't want just popping up.

My second is a mute she don't say nothing she don't do nothing she shouldn't do and she always does what she's told. Hmmmm now if key clone could do that for my wife i am sold!!!! LOL j/k ladies. I'm a nice guy...... i think.

[AtroxCasus]

I set up keyclone to launch all my clients at once with the login ID already in the box. I disable DNP, enter a single password, hit ENTER and all instance login to the character loading screen. I make sure they are all the toons I want in, and hit ENTER, they all login to world, and I enable DNP.

Get to love the PAUSE key. I have a lot of players wanting to talk about multiboxing or whatever, and it allows me to talk on the main without the other toons twitching, opening up bags or character screens... you get the idea.