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Drizzit
09-29-2008, 09:09 AM
K, i am really getting sick of the people that say that i am rich because i multi box. I do the 6 months at a time so i basically say that i pay $65 a month. I know compared to mortgage, electric, gas, and all my other bills $65 a month is nothing. So when be whisper me and say wow you must be loaded (i know i should ignore them, but always think that there is an intelligent person behind the keyboard) to afford 5 account and tell them it is only $65, they continue to say wow you are rich i wish i had that money to waste.

So i am making a poll to what you think the age lvl that we are dealing with here. Also all the QQ on the wow threads sound like kids saying, not fair MOMMY.

Please use you best judgment

Aethon
09-29-2008, 09:29 AM
I still pay monthly, even $75 a month is cheap when you put it into perspective.

3 new release movies; 1 cheap dinner and a movie for my wife and I; 3-4 orders from Pizza Hut/Papa John's; 1 X-box or Wii game; 1/2 of my internet/tv/phone bill, etc

For the majority of QQ'ers, I really feel it's usually preteen/early teen. I've had a few people give me the "wow, cool" messages and say they can't afford it.



After all, I remember when I was 13-16, nothing was fair and I never got what I wanted either.

davedontmind
09-29-2008, 09:44 AM
I just point out it's cheaper than many other hobbies and habits, e.g. smoking a pack of cigarettes a day, and they tend to shut up then...

Rin
09-29-2008, 10:00 AM
I pay $150/month... don't want to be commited to a wow contract ;) It's not a big deal to me.

Fat Tire
09-29-2008, 10:15 AM
I honestly believe that 98% of the haters are below the age of 18. Simply for the fact that mommy or daddy wont pay for more subscriptions. Leaving them jealous and with the only thing left they can do. Rage tells and reporting even if its in vain. They need to do this to help them qualify their nerd rage into to trying to belittle the MB. Mostly by saying you have no life, your a cheater and a loser who lives in your parents basement. While I believe most MB are adults who indeed are employed.Some are married(me),most have mortgages(me) and a few might even have children(again me) along with most having most of their priorities in order.

In the end its about entertainment and warcraft is a video game after all. There are a few who take gaming in general way too seriously.

It would be funny to have a poll for players who dont MB. If you could(afford) dual box would you? In reality its just about the subscription cost because most* computers today have the ability to run multiple copies of wow.

I would bet there would be a fairly high percentage who would. In point of fact you could say that the raf alone has brought in a large number of new boxers.

Qtrain
09-29-2008, 10:15 AM
I tell those people when they have said those things to me that it cost at least $125 to gas up my truck , it sounds cheaper to keep my old ass at home and just pay for these accounts dont it!

Sarduci
09-29-2008, 11:00 AM
I had a $200.00 bar bill this weekend from going out with a couple of friends. WoW is my cheap hobby.

This weekend I did have someone take enough time out of there day to tell me to 'F*ck off" to each one of my guys. I opened 5 reports, and the GM asked me why I opened five. I then clarified that I was verbally harassed by whispers on all 5 accounts, not one. FYI for anyone else you may want to clarify ahead of time if someone was that motivated.

dmastuh
09-29-2008, 11:08 AM
i dont agree with whoever says "oh, must be like 11 years old" i think the people are around 15 years or younger, and im in my teens i just happen to be lucky to have parents that play, but let me use the accounts. :D

Hachoo
09-29-2008, 11:10 AM
I think 15 is the magic "I'm an idiot and an asshole" age.

14 and under it seems like most kids are still somewhat respectful or in awe or just don't want to start anything. Alot of kids over 16 are "over" that phase or it has at least calmed down some and they've started to figure out who they are. 15 is that magic number where you're an idiot, have no idea how life works, don't have a job yet, and don't respect your elders.

Drizzit
09-29-2008, 11:16 AM
15 is that magic number where you're an idiot, have no idea how life works, don't have a job yet, and don't respect your elders

What are you talking about... at 15 you know everything and everyone is wrong :P

So i guess like you forget everything when your 16 :P

(by the way, i agree with you, wanted to say this just in case you didn't know i was kidding)

Anjuna
09-29-2008, 11:25 AM
Although the "QQ Posters" act like they are 11, (sometimes younger) I disagree that they are that young. I doubt the average 11 year old is going to sit there and conjure up some type of Perry Mason style case against multiboxing (or anything) like I have seen on the forums. I would say that the average QQ'er is going to be around the out of high school / in college / part time job age. If you look at the way a lot of those posts are written, they come across as being very manipulative and most of these posts are created late at night when most of the kiddies are supposed to be in bed. Most of these posts appear to be made by someone who has been playing all day, has nowhere to be in the morning and needs to get some sleep.

So 18-22 is my guess. GET A JOB!

Subject
09-29-2008, 11:54 AM
Although the "QQ Posters" act like they are 11, (sometimes younger) I disagree that they are that young. I doubt the average 11 year old is going to sit there and conjure up some type of Perry Mason style case against multiboxing (or anything) like I have seen on the forums. I would say that the average QQ'er is going to be around the out of high school / in college / part time job age. If you look at the way a lot of those posts are written, they come across as being very manipulative and most of these posts are created late at night when most of the kiddies are supposed to be in bed. Most of these posts appear to be made by someone who has been playing all day, has nowhere to be in the morning and needs to get some sleep.

So 18-22 is my guess. GET A JOB!
22 and a Video Editor and a Dual-Boxer (only two for now...more may come soon :p), so I strongly disagree with you on the age thing. Most 18-22 won't freak out over that and try to get themselves a ban or suspension, the age bracket in my mind is only going to be 14-17 and maybe some older individuals with a less than average IQ.

mmcookies
09-29-2008, 12:04 PM
Although the "QQ Posters" act like they are 11, (sometimes younger) I disagree that they are that young. I doubt the average 11 year old is going to sit there and conjure up some type of Perry Mason style case against multiboxing (or anything) like I have seen on the forums. I would say that the average QQ'er is going to be around the out of high school / in college / part time job age. If you look at the way a lot of those posts are written, they come across as being very manipulative and most of these posts are created late at night when most of the kiddies are supposed to be in bed. Most of these posts appear to be made by someone who has been playing all day, has nowhere to be in the morning and needs to get some sleep.

So 18-22 is my guess. GET A JOB!for some people, being manipulative is in their blood (well, more like they get it from their parents), but they're just not very good at it at age 15
imagine the rage of someone who really doesn't fit in well at school, finds vidya games one of the few things he gets some attention for, and then getting jealous of someone who's (once again) older than him and has more power/money to "show him up" (he feels)

then again, it could be someone older who feels the same way. that's been known to happen.

Tonuss
09-29-2008, 12:17 PM
That's what I've always done.

And yes, they are probably low/mid-teens. When I was 13 or 14 I had no idea about how much rent was, or groceries, or what my father's salary was. By the time I was 18 I'd had a crash course in all of those, but before that I suppose that I would have been shocked that anyone would pay $X a month to multibox.

Of course, I'd have the common courtesy not to be a douchebag about it, but that's just me. As Fursphere said, just ignore them.

Warchamp7
09-29-2008, 12:18 PM
I always cry when a conversation goes like this (Example is unrelated to boxing)

Guy: omg all u do is firball an den run away, ur such a nub

Me: Why don't you cry more? Go tell mommy the mean mage hurt you

Guy: fuk u im 16 u idiot

Is it that hard for people to talk normal??

Anjuna
09-29-2008, 12:18 PM
22 and a Video Editor and a Dual-Boxer (only two for now...more may come soon :p), so I strongly disagree with you on the age thing. Most 18-22 won't freak out over that and try to get themselves a ban or suspension, the age bracket in my mind is only going to be 14-17 and maybe some older individuals with a less than average IQ. You totally fall outside of the category I mentioned. I said 18-22, out of high school with maybe a light college or work schedule and nothing better to do. Not a young professional like yourself.

Drizzit
09-29-2008, 12:23 PM
If you respond to them in anyway, you're just feeding them. Why not completely own them by ignoring them altogether?

it's like the sun... you know that you are not suppose to look at it, but you do and then continue to look at it :P

elsegundo
09-29-2008, 02:37 PM
i dual box, so i go with the... its $1 a day. geez. you cant afford $1 a day? i pay $2 for my coffee, and $5 of gas just to get to and from work. there's many other payments, but i stick with the daily $$ amounts just to make it something they can relate to, as most kids dont have monthly payments. but they do have daily lunch and busfare and such.

Tehtsuo
09-29-2008, 02:56 PM
I was going to agree with you because I thought you were titling your post in the fashion "The Stone Age", not talking about specific QQ messages. It really seems like lately the quality of communication in WoW has gone downhill. I remember when a decent percentage of the people you encountered in the game were generally rational, grown-up individuals who were interested in having a good time. Now it seems like nobody is in that boat, and everyone is interested in being condescending, belittling, and irritating to everyone they meet.... always. Say anything in trade chat, be it a question or a statement, and if you get any answers at all at least one will be aimed as far away from helping you as they can get. That's why I don't see myself ever going back to solo-boxing - I couldn't play this game anymore without the nice warm niche of independence I've carved into my server.

On an unrelated note, I got turned down for tanking a pug Karazhan run on my Paladin last week. (Solo, not with my multibox team) I've tanked Rage Frostwhisper, Gruul, Magtheridon, Void Reaver (Through 100% of the fight, the warriors couldn't keep up with my threat rocket) and solo-tanked all of Karazhan. Their reason? "She's a no-skill hacker" Direct quote relayed to me by proxy, several of my guild were in the group, but left after hearing that. I suppose that was my poetic justice, their pug most likely fell apart after losing several of my guildies who didn't want to have anything to do with their condescension.

BobGnarly
09-29-2008, 02:57 PM
but always think that there is an intelligent person behind the keyboardThis is your fallacy, right here. :)

I think the age varies all over the place. That probably really is a lot of money to an 8-year-old. But even the 12-year-olds have cell phones now and text message each other like Avogadro's Constant times per day, so they have to be paying at least that in a cell phone bill. What the 20+ crowd really mean is "I have that much money and more, but I'm so socially advanced, I would rather spend all my cash on drugs and my rockstar lifestyle than your pathetic hobby."

And while I know you said you know this, I have to say again, ignore the haters. Honestly, the absolutely worst thing you can do to them is to not indulge them with your time. They want you to respond and give them validation - if you don't, it's worse than any clever retort you can conjure, I promise.

Jaws5
09-29-2008, 03:20 PM
I seem to get more let me run bgs with you grp, make it a raid grp so i can join you. (this was AV) hehe just make my day

Rms
09-29-2008, 04:19 PM
I had a $200.00 bar bill this weekend from going out with a couple of friends. WoW is my cheap hobby.

This weekend I did have someone take enough time out of there day to tell me to 'F*ck off" to each one of my guys. I opened 5 reports, and the GM asked me why I opened five. I then clarified that I was verbally harassed by whispers on all 5 accounts, not one. FYI for anyone else you may want to clarify ahead of time if someone was that motivated.

Yeh I hear you. Staying home one weekend night a month rather than hitting the bar pays for a month of my 5 box wow.

Most people have the naive view of "I got owned by that guy cheating by playing 5 accounts at once" when they are the ones trying to kill 5 characters. Only if someone can 1 v 5 a 5 player group and not beat a 5 box do they have an argument against multiboxing. Besides that it's all QQ.

Marious
09-29-2008, 07:24 PM
Yup agree with a lot of what is being said, and as I posted on one of my personal QQ post about non MB's, 16 was the magic number there.

And man the amount of gas I save on not going out pays for my WoW habit, needless to say I only have 4 accounts but still. Shoot I do some travel for work and the amount it cost for a room and food in one day a lot of times can pay for 2-3 months of WoW, just imagine the bill for taking out a customer for dinner shoot that will pay for at least 6-9 months of WoW.

Younger folks that dont have a job, which most of these kids are since they would not be playing WoW they would be at work if they did have jobs dont understand that we do it because we enjoy it and they can think whatever they want it will only change when we finnally get tired of the game and quit all together.

And also agree on the fact that a non mber will attack a MB right away, case and point last night I was on for a bit just waiting on dinner to get done and went to do a quest or 2 and what happens I am setting up my stuff, sitting drinking for mana and some 57 decides he wants to kill me and he does since I was not ready I come back and he tries again, well big mistake budy, he dies and then after I wait for him to rez he rezes as far as posible and gets on mount and he takes of fast, I went after him but he got away :(

Stealthy
09-29-2008, 08:53 PM
Is it that hard for people to talk normal??

Extremely.

http://www.arinmorf.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/20040319h.jpg

If you respond to them in any way shape or form, you're just feeding them. Why not completely own them by ignoring them altogether?Ahh the GIF thoery...always lol every time I see this.

spudstar99
09-30-2008, 07:59 AM
i dont agree with whoever says "oh, must be like 11 years old" i think the people are around 15 years or younger, and im in my teens i just happen to be lucky to have parents that play, but let me use the accounts. :Dbtw by the tos itīs not allowed to share accounts.

please stop it.

if you want to dual / multibox ... do it the legal way please

Razman
09-30-2008, 08:17 AM
I have 5 seperate accounts myself but isnt there some 'get out clause' when the accounts are for siblings or something?

BTW I put 14 and was surprised to see many agree. You can see some ass hat complain mightily that he couldnt defeat 5 players in a BG and doesnt actually get that no one defeats 5 players in a BG. Thats like a 5 boxer taking on a co ordinated army of 25 guys and complaining about why he couldn't pwn them and how they must obviously be cheating.

My last response to the 'wow that must be expensive' was- 'I consider WoW to be my hobby and as far as hobbies go its fairly cheap'-- that got the response --'fair enough'--

I know people who pay more for 3 golf balls that they will lose in a week than I pay for 5 wow accounts for a month. Plus golf is really really sad.

Drizzit
09-30-2008, 08:45 AM
i dont agree with whoever says "oh, must be like 11 years old" i think the people are around 15 years or younger, and im in my teens i just happen to be lucky to have parents that play, but let me use the accounts. :Dbtw by the tos itīs not allowed to share accounts.

please stop it.

if you want to dual / multibox ... do it the legal way pleaseWell in this case it is legal. You can only share your account with ONE (1) minor. So if his mom, dad, and himself have an account he could legally box 3 accounts up until the age of 18. After the age of 18 he would have to transfer those accounts or have his mom and dad call blizzard to change the account to his name (which is not easy).

But if he has a brother/sister that boxes only 1 of them can be on his mom and dad's account.

Tonuss
09-30-2008, 10:03 AM
I think the age varies all over the place. That probably really is a lot of money to an 8-year-old. But even the 12-year-olds have cell phones now and text message each other like Avogadro's Constant times per day, so they have to be paying at least that in a cell phone bill.They are probably on a family plan, which is paid for by their parents. I would bet that nine out of ten teenagers with cell phones have no idea how much it costs per month, and the others only know because their parents are constantly yelling at them to "GET OFF THAT PHONE IT COSTS $50 A MONTH!!!" Remember that during those years your parents pay for rent, for food, for clothes, for school items, for transportation, for computers, for internet access, for phones, for cable TV... it is natural to never even think about the costs, even in those times when your parents rhetorically ask if you understand how much something costs. Few kids have any idea what their parent's income is.

Mostly it's just grasping at straws, like a neighbor who is showing off his new car, and you point out that you have a much better one. So he makes fun of you for "wasting" so much money. He's just saying it to salvage his dignity at that point. One of the criticisms that people aim at multiboxers is that we "have no lives." Even though multiboxing doesn't have to take any more time than single boxing. It's just a way to soothe your ego when a multiboxer flatlines you with one cast. :)

5fingersofdoom
09-30-2008, 12:57 PM
I play 10 accounts,but this doesn't bother in the slightest.
The very fact their contact is completely unsolicited,and the quality of the comments as rude as possible,says far more about their emotional state of mind than I ever could.
I just laugh and put it down to the microwave radiation from cellphones. ;)

mmcookies
09-30-2008, 05:12 PM
I just realized the name of this thread is pretty awesome

Someone should make an MMO named Age of QQ
Large part of the game will be forum based, where you earn QQ points to "balance" your character in game.

Kaynin
09-30-2008, 05:14 PM
I voter 19 years and older.

I don't know, but in my experience, younglings mostly dont care and just find multiboxing awesome. It's the older ones that can't find the means to box themselves that cry the hardest.

Marious
09-30-2008, 06:20 PM
In my experience, vast, vast experience, ok not really vast at all. So my experience has shown me that the QQ period its from the time you are born to about 8-9, at 10 a little bit and then when you start playing WoW again from 13-18 sometimes 19 the QQ starts again so there are a few years there and hopefuly at 20 or so the QQing is over and you will get a life. But I am sure that there is plenty of QQing from older guys and gals as well about all sorts of different things. And its unfortunate but its not just about the opposite faction that the QQing is about, its about other players in game, dont believe me just stand around towns and read the constant QQing on trade channel.