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Marious
09-12-2008, 02:37 PM
Quick question for you all still leveling the locks and was wondering if at 62 how viable is it to go Demonology Spec on the locks, or would having one Demo and one Affliction be alright, or should both be Affliction or both Demo. Will Demo be just lagging behind because his mana just wont stay full and cant use Dark Pact. Wanted to try out 2 demo spec and see how they fare at leveling and mana consumption.

Any responses are much appreciated.

Thanks!

Vyndree
09-12-2008, 03:18 PM
at 62 how viable is it to go Demonology Spec on the locks

I ran 5 warlocks, and they are level 60 now.

Let me put it this way -- I run a DPS meter at all times. My demonology warlock's PET was doing more damage than my affliction warlocks. Things just died too quickly for dots to last for their full duration.

I respecced 4x demo and 1x aff (for imp CoE) and now all I do is just tap the mob and let the pets cleave it to bits while I go find another mob.

Putting the pet intercept on a castsequence/round robin is also fun. ;)

Marious
09-12-2008, 03:21 PM
Thank you Vyn, great to see your locks are 60+ and destroying WoW content with Demo build.

I saw you got in beta gratz on that as well. Let us know how it goes in there!

Frosty
09-12-2008, 03:35 PM
hmmm..I think this post may have convinced me to re-spec my Warlock..
the dps I've been noticing has been the lowest in the group. :S

Zzc2
09-12-2008, 04:11 PM
Affliction is big on DoTs, so when things die real fast, the DoTs are not very effective. I currently run demo and just dot everything once on the locks and have the felguards finish them off. its really easy leveling.

Marious
09-12-2008, 04:54 PM
So I tried it out and I am so used to doing Affliction and the multiple dots that having really just 2 dots is like wow I dont get to mash as many buttons but I guess that's technically good my keyboard will last longer. And no I don't got cast sequence set up, I like to mash multiple buttons now I see myself mashing it for 2 dots and the Felguard mashes its face in rather quick. Will take me some time to get used to it. But on the other hand he does not have any issues tanking the mob so thats a good thing.

So for you guys that do Demo what is the cast sequence you go through?

So far what I did when I tried it a bit ago was as follows:

Send Felguard->CoA->Corr->SB->SB until dead.

Am I missing anything, how can I maximize my DPS on Demo. I'll take a look at the Warlocks den and see what they have also.

Thanks!

Zzc2
09-12-2008, 05:07 PM
CoA -> Cor -> felguard -> move to next mob

Vyndree
09-12-2008, 05:27 PM
Affliction is big on DoTs, so when things die real fast, the DoTs are not very effective. I currently run demo and just dot everything once on the locks and have the felguards finish them off. its really easy leveling.

Nail on the head right here. I know the OP is 2-boxing, though... so your results may vary depending on how quickly you kill things or if you're a "SL and run!" type person who gathers up an entire area with 1 set of dots on each mob ;)


I also hear on the lock forums that from 60-65 or so Demonology is higher DPS than aff. It doesn't scale as well at 70, but it's a good leveling spec. :)


My dps rotation was CoA + felguard, move to next mob before the first mob dies. CoA + felguard next mob, the first mob dies thanks to cleaves and the CoA ticks.

Marious
09-12-2008, 05:35 PM
So Skip Corr entirely and just CoA->Felguard and grab another target. Sounds good see how it works out tonight when I try it out. Yup just 2 locks. All this fun makes me want to grab another account and level more locks for some real fun times.

Marious
09-12-2008, 05:40 PM
So here is another question, for instance running I am still trying to get use to it where I have my 2 locks and my priest and fill in with another DPS plus a tank, I tried out Ramps and after a bit got the hang of it but I'm kind of slow. Tried BF and got destroyed. So what kind of makeup would you all suggest for doing instance runs on the trio? Priest is holy/disc spec at the moment so that I dont really have to find a healer as well as a tank. But maybe I should just have priest go back to shadow and find the healer/tank instead of doing healing myself, found it kind of hard to do, but I am a noob at multiboxing still so it might get easier as time passes.

Thanks for the responses.

Zzc2
09-12-2008, 05:40 PM
V is running 5 locks. with 2 locks, don't skip on Corruption.

Vyndree
09-12-2008, 05:50 PM
V is running 5 locks. with 2 locks, don't skip on Corruption.

Indeedy. I am a bit overboard with my altaholic-ism.

You can try it out if you like but it might feel slow with two. Usually I try to always have 3 mobs around my felguards so that their cleave has the maximum effect. With 2 warlocks you might take a bit longer, and health-funneling a felguard all the time isn't very fun.

Metalocalypse
09-13-2008, 12:15 AM
Besides..Corruption is going to be instant! :thumbsup:

5fingersofdoom
09-13-2008, 10:58 PM
Currently running 5 locks at 55-59,Demon spec.
Atm i'm just using simple,instant curses then sending it the Felguards.
Although i'm also rotating in a 2x2 lock and shadow priest combo.
Double mind flay and double drain soul is nice,really like playing on auto pilot,for this i don't usually even use curses its so fast.
Absolutely no mana issues with the priests,and for the locks if i get low just life tap with priests group heals.
I'm going to add in my moonkin when i hit OL see how that works.
Hope this helps. :)

moji
09-14-2008, 01:22 AM
Yeah, I played affliction solo for a while, if the rest of the group's dps was better,then I did worse because my dots wouldn't tick. Destro fire dps ftw.

i was thinking of a 3 lock 2 priest group. 1 demon, 2 destro, 1 spriest and 1coh holy. But, 3 demo would be better for leveling till I get some spelldamage, and the demo lock could be subbed out for a real tank for instances. After 70 though, having the demo lock would be kinda pointless. Not enough to tank heroics, and with 2 big shadowbolts and a crit mindflay reg mobs would drop before the pet would get to them.

any thoughts?

5fingersofdoom
09-14-2008, 06:14 PM
Seems good,but yeah definately swapping out the 3rd/5th lock for a tank,post 60 and 70 proper warrior/palas tank.
I was tempted to go holy too but i found healing more than fine,(and i also wanted shadowform ;p)
Wondering if a palas and 2 holy priest might not be better for running OL instances tho,with a reskill for higher dps on the locks,post 65
(Another thing i have setup is a bind to double bubble both lock pets before they dash in). :)

ObesAU
09-14-2008, 07:42 PM
The missus and I started a new team last week.
I am driving 2 locks, war tank and a healdin
And she is playing a lock. Only just hit 20. It is pretty funny tho how fast stuff dies.


Had some random run up to me and tell me I was "team fail glide" ... whatever that means

Freakinred
09-15-2008, 05:08 AM
I 4-box warlocks. Leveled destro/afflic up to 50, got 4 Felguards as soon as I could (I'd never leveled a lock as Demo before).

I'm completely blown away by the awesome power of multiple Felguards. I was soloing level 70s at 60 without having to actually do anything but fear them and let my FGs do the killing. I've since discovered the counter-class for rogues is, in fact, 3 Felguards and a Felpup.



It's possible to go through an entire, densely packed area of mobs, put 4 dots on them, have the FGs attack, and move to the next, without even coming close to needing to stop.

Saevio
09-15-2008, 07:19 AM
Had some random run up to me and tell me I was "team fail glide" ... whatever that meansProbably a reference to Glider.

blast3r
09-15-2008, 07:34 AM
at 62 how viable is it to go Demonology Spec on the locks

I ran 5 warlocks, and they are level 60 now.

Let me put it this way -- I run a DPS meter at all times. My demonology warlock's PET was doing more damage than my affliction warlocks. Things just died too quickly for dots to last for their full duration.

I respecced 4x demo and 1x aff (for imp CoE) and now all I do is just tap the mob and let the pets cleave it to bits while I go find another mob.

Putting the pet intercept on a castsequence/round robin is also fun. ;)

Just got my felguards yesterday (have one priest and 4 locks) and boy those things are awesome. I'm going to set that round robin thing up but how do you do that with /petattack? btw, i have a gifted level 59 warlock sitting with level 1 gear waiting on the locks to catch up so I will have 5 felguards then!

Frosty
09-15-2008, 08:24 AM
I respec'd and I am seeing a lot more DPS in my group. But I'm not sure I like the Felguard pulling aggro from the paladin.
I know I can turn this off, but it has me wondering if it might not be better to re-spec to Destruction and just use the sucubus or imp.
I've never run a Destruction Warlock though. Does anyone know of any pros or cons to doing this?

Momo
09-15-2008, 10:23 AM
I have 4 locks which I either run with a priest or Pally.

To be honest.....You dont need backup with the Felguards.

Demonology is by far the best levelling spec for locks. As mentioned above, they scale like wet beach towels as you approach 70. But from level sixty through to level 65 at least, they are most definately pwnzors...Dot...Sick pet....next mob....sick pet...next....

Spec points into imp drain life & life tap and you have very, very little downtime.

If you are running two locks...I would suggest putting three points into demonic Resiliance...just to keep one alive a bit longer. Other than that...mana feed. Keep em intercepting the whole time.

THey are one crazy arse minion.

The only real issue I have had with them is that they are a touch on the squishy side for ramps @ level 60...(I've been using them as the tank)

And yeah....adding ctrl-1 to round robin in key clone is godly pvp....complete stun(war)lock....effectively CC & kill an opponent at the same time.

Vyndree
09-15-2008, 01:56 PM
Just got my felguards yesterday (have one priest and 4 locks) and boy those things are awesome. I'm going to set that round robin thing up but how do you do that with /petattack? btw, i have a gifted level 59 warlock sitting with level 1 gear waiting on the locks to catch up so I will have 5 felguards then!

You don't do it with /petattack. Just use /cast Intercept on a castsequence (or /cast Intercept on round robin if you're using software that has round robin features)...

i.e.

/castsequence reset=30 Intercept,,,
/castsequence reset=30 ,Intercept,,
/castsequence reset=30 ,,Intercept,
/castsequence reset=30 ,,,Intercept

Frosty
09-15-2008, 02:44 PM
Demon Form is OP at least. You can just plow through stuff. Its crazy. But its also melee (a little), so make sure you melee boxing skills are up to snuff.
This was another reason I was thinking of re-spec'ing my warlock to Destruction.

I may never make up my mind..

blast3r
09-17-2008, 04:23 PM
Just got my felguards yesterday (have one priest and 4 locks) and boy those things are awesome. I'm going to set that round robin thing up but how do you do that with /petattack? btw, i have a gifted level 59 warlock sitting with level 1 gear waiting on the locks to catch up so I will have 5 felguards then!

You don't do it with /petattack. Just use /cast Intercept on a castsequence (or /cast Intercept on round robin if you're using software that has round robin features)...

i.e.

/castsequence reset=30 Intercept,,,
/castsequence reset=30 ,Intercept,,
/castsequence reset=30 ,,Intercept,
/castsequence reset=30 ,,,Intercept

Thank you! Didn't know you could cast like that.