Free multiplexers?? I looked everywhere--I swear.

[Aerayne]

I thought I'd like to multibox mine and my husband's toon while the other can't be there to lvl up together. I know ppl who do it and I'm pretty sure I can if I can just find a program (free or not too expensive) to multiplex. Please don't suggest keyclone--already been there. If that's the cheapest they run, fine. But I know my friend got a free one and wouldn't you know it? He's not been on lately. Please help!

[olipcs]

....hm, you searched everywere, including the wiki?

thing its quite obvious placed under Getting Started - Software...
http://www.dual-boxing.com/wiki/index.php/Software

[Aradar]

I'd like to multibox mine and my husband's toon

This will get you banned. Accounts can only be shared between one person and one of his/her minor children. Multiboxing tends to get reported from people that don't understand and when Blizz checks into it they will see the account sharing and swiftly ban both accounts. I would highly advise against this.

[phetish]

http://www.dual-boxing.com/wiki/index.php/Octopus

[Vyndree]

Multiboxing tends to get reported from people that don't understand and when Blizz checks into it they will see the account sharing and swiftly ban both accounts.

To clarify this a bit:

It's OK to multibox -- but people don't know that, and as a multiboxer you'll probably get some (if not ALOT of) attention. People who don't understand that it's OK, they will report you (and they should if they think you're a bot or something... Blizz will investigate, see that you're not botting, and nothing will happen).

Now, when Blizz receives a player report, many things get checked -- including account names. If the account names do not match, that's pretty much an insta-ban for account sharing.


Just clarifying:
Multiboxing = OK
Account sharing = NOT OK

Getting away with it: NOT LIKELY
Discussing it on our forums: NEVER. ('http://www.dual-boxing.com/forums/index.php?page=Thread&postID=14540')

[ChaoticMonk]

Now, when Blizz receives a player report, many things get checked -- including account names. If the account names do not match, that's pretty much an insta-ban for account sharing.
What if you made accounts under a different first name but same last name? do they only check last name like when doing character transfers?

My first name is Abdalla which is what I used on my main account but my alts are under first name Ab which is what everyone calls me....dang now I'm worried :S

[Aradar]

Multiboxing tends to get reported from people that don't understand and when Blizz checks into it they will see the account sharing and swiftly ban both accounts.

To clarify this a bit:

It's OK to multibox -- but people don't know that, and as a multiboxer you'll probably get some (if not ALOT of) attention. People who don't understand that it's OK, they will report you (and they should if they think you're a bot or something... Blizz will investigate, see that you're not botting, and nothing will happen).

Now, when Blizz receives a player report, many things get checked -- including account names. If the account names do not match, that's pretty much an insta-ban for account sharing.


Just clarifying:
Multiboxing = OK
Account sharing = NOT OK

Getting away with it: NOT LIKELY
Discussing it on our forums: NEVER. ('http://www.dual-boxing.com/forums/index.php?page=Thread&postID=14540')

What she said. :P



Now, when Blizz receives a player report, many things get checked -- including account names. If the account names do not match, that's pretty much an insta-ban for account sharing.
What if you made accounts under a different first name but same last name? do they only check last name like when doing character transfers?

My first name is Abdalla which is what I used on my main account but my alts are under first name Ab which is what everyone calls me....dang now I'm worried :S

I kind of have the same issue: How to Change Account Names ('http://www.dual-boxing.com/forums/index.php?page=Thread&postID=44367&highlight=#post44367')

I've never fixed this issue and have had no problems though you should do what makes you feel comfortable. I personally worry it will show up but at the same time any commen sense on the person investigating my accounts would negate this. However, the rules are the rules and they could do what those rules call for and then I would have to go through the trouble of fixing it. But I'll cross that bridge when it gets here.

[Vyndree]

Now, when Blizz receives a player report, many things get checked -- including account names. If the account names do not match, that's pretty much an insta-ban for account sharing.
What if you made accounts under a different first name but same last name? do they only check last name like when doing character transfers?

My first name is Abdalla which is what I used on my main account but my alts are under first name Ab which is what everyone calls me....dang now I'm worried :S

It's up to the GM. I know they've confirmed that if your name is "Robert" and you put "Rob" as your first name on the other account, there's usually no worry. However, if your first name was "Robert" and the other account's first name was "Susan" -- even if your last names matched, the GM isn't stupid.

[Aerayne]

....hm, you searched everywere, including the wiki?

thing its quite obvious placed under Getting Started - Software...
http://www.dual-boxing.com/wiki/index.php/SoftwareHmm, the site you sent me wasn't the one I looked at. http://www.wowwiki.com/Multiboxing. Didn't mean to annoy.

[Aerayne]

[quote='Aradar',index.php?page=Thread&postID=119957#post119957]Multiboxing tends to get reported from people that don't understand and when Blizz checks into it they will see the account sharing and swiftly ban both accounts.

To clarify this a bit:

It's OK to multibox -- but people don't know that, and as a multiboxer you'll probably get some (if not ALOT of) attention. People who don't understand that it's OK, they will report you (and they should if they think you're a bot or something... Blizz will investigate, see that you're not botting, and nothing will happen).

Now, when Blizz receives a player report, many things get checked -- including account names. If the account names do not match, that's pretty much an insta-ban for account sharing.


Just clarifying:
Multiboxing = OK
Account sharing = NOT OK

Getting away with it: NOT LIKELY
Discussing it on our forums:
Now, when Blizz receives a player report, many things get checked -- including account names. If the account names do not match, that's pretty much an insta-ban for account sharing.
What if you made accounts under a different first name but same last name? do they only check last name like when doing character transfers?

My first name is Abdalla which is what I used on my main account but my alts are under first name Ab which is what everyone calls me....dang now I'm worried :S

I kind of have the same issue: How to Change Account Names

I've never fixed this issue and have had no problems though you should do what makes you feel comfortable. I personally worry it will show up but at the same time any commen sense on the person investigating my accounts would negate this. However, the rules are the rules and they could do what those rules call for and then I would have to go through the trouble of fixing it. But I'll cross that bridge when it gets here. ('http://www.dual-boxing.com/forums/index.php?page=Thread&postID=44367&highlight=#post44367')OK, wait. I thought you just had to have 2 accounts. I own both. Now I'm really confused and I'll take it out of here. I'll go ask someone from Blizzard. Thx anyway.

[Vyndree]

I'd like to multibox mine and my husband's toon


I own both

What we're saying here is... no, you don't own both.

But most definitely go ask Blizzard. That's always the best recourse when dealing with ambiguity about the rules.

You might want to also take a look at the following threads on the same topic, which have links to blue posts and world of warcraft support pages on account ownership and sharing:
http://dual-boxing.com/forums/index.php?page=Thread&postID=24229#post24229
http://dual-boxing.com/forums/index.php?page=Thread&postID=78169#post78169
http://dual-boxing.com/forums/index.php?page=Thread&postID=75284#post75284
http://dual-boxing.com/forums/index.php?page=Thread&postID=74121#post74121
http://dual-boxing.com/forums/index.php?page=Thread&postID=82456#post82456
http://dual-boxing.com/forums/index.php?page=Thread&postID=65734#post65734
http://dual-boxing.com/forums/index.php?page=Thread&postID=80803#post80803
http://dual-boxing.com/forums/index.php?page=Thread&postID=82893#post82893



http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/legal/termsofuse.html

Establishing an Account.
You may establish one (1) user account (the "Account") on the Service for each Authentication Key you receive from Blizzard. To establish an Account, you will be required to provide Blizzard with certain personal information and the Authentication Key provided to you by Blizzard. Your failure to supply accurate information to Blizzard when requested, or to update that information as it changes, shall constitute a material breach of this Agreement.
During the registration process, you will be required to select a username and a password that are unique to the Account (collectively referred to hereunder as "Login Information"). You may not share the Account or the Login Information with anyone other than as expressly set forth herein.


Blizzard’s Absolute Right to Suspend, Terminate and/or Delete the Account.
BLIZZARD MAY SUSPEND, TERMINATE, MODIFY, OR DELETE THE ACCOUNT AT ANY TIME WITH ANY REASON OR NO REASON, WITH OR WITHOUT NOTICE. For purposes of explanation and not limitation, most account suspensions, terminations and/or deletions are the result of violations of this Terms of Use or the EULA.

Also review the blizzard support page:
http://us.blizzard.com/support/article.xml?articleId=20460&rhtml=true

Limitations placed on Account Access
The ToU speaks extensively about what you may and may not do with a World of Warcraft account. This section highlights a few passages from the ToU that are most relevant to this policy. The core message is that you, and only you (with the exception of a minor authorized to use an account by a parent or guardian), should be accessing an account registered in your name.

Blizzard Entertainment does not recognize the transfer of Accounts between individuals. (Section 1E of the ToU)
You may not share your Account or password with anyone, except that if you are a parent or guardian, you may permit one (1) minor child to use the Account instead of you (in which case you may not use that Account at the same time). (Section 1A of the ToU)
You are liable for all activities conducted through the Account, including any activities which may be conducted by your minor children that you allow to use your Account. (Section 1A of the ToU)
You are responsible for maintaining the confidentiality of your User Name and password, and you will be responsible for all uses of your User Name and password whether or not authorized by you. Security of your account is your responsibility. (Section 1D of the ToU)

[Aerayne]

well thx for informing me of the facts. i obviously won't be doing it now. i was misinformed and it's not gonna kill me to not do this. i won't break the law. sorry to have wasted anyone's time. i go now



I own both

What we're saying here is... no, you don't own both.

But most definitely go ask Blizzard. That's always the best recourse when dealing with ambiguity about the rules.

You might want to also take a look at the following threads on the same topic, which have links to blue posts and world of warcraft support pages on account ownership and sharing:
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/legal/termsofuse.html

Establishing an Account.
You may establish one (1) user account (the "Account") on the Service for each Authentication Key you receive from Blizzard. To establish an Account, you will be required to provide Blizzard with certain personal information and the Authentication Key provided to you by Blizzard. Your failure to supply accurate information to Blizzard when requested, or to update that information as it changes, shall constitute a material breach of this Agreement.
During the registration process, you will be required to select a username and a password that are unique to the Account (collectively referred to hereunder as "Login Information"). You may not share the Account or the Login Information with anyone other than as expressly set forth herein.


Blizzard’s Absolute Right to Suspend, Terminate and/or Delete the Account.
BLIZZARD MAY SUSPEND, TERMINATE, MODIFY, OR DELETE THE ACCOUNT AT ANY TIME WITH ANY REASON OR NO REASON, WITH OR WITHOUT NOTICE. For purposes of explanation and not limitation, most account suspensions, terminations and/or deletions are the result of violations of this Terms of Use or the EULA.

Also review the blizzard support page:
http://us.blizzard.com/support/article.xml?articleId=20460&rhtml=true ('http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/legal/termsofuse.html')

Limitations placed on Account Access
The ToU speaks extensively about what you may and may not do with a World of Warcraft account. This section highlights a few passages from the ToU that are most relevant to this policy. The core message is that you, and only you (with the exception of a minor authorized to use an account by a parent or guardian), should be accessing an account registered in your name.

Blizzard Entertainment does not recognize the transfer of Accounts between individuals. (Section 1E of the ToU)
You may not share your Account or password with anyone, except that if you are a parent or guardian, you may permit one (1) minor child to use the Account instead of you (in which case you may not use that Account at the same time). (Section 1A of the ToU)
You are liable for all activities conducted through the Account, including any activities which may be conducted by your minor children that you allow to use your Account. (Section 1A of the ToU)
You are responsible for maintaining the confidentiality of your User Name and password, and you will be responsible for all uses of your User Name and password whether or not authorized by you. Security of your account is your responsibility. (Section 1D of the ToU)
sorry i was just obviously misinformed by another person who is doing it. sorry to waste anyone's time.

[Aerayne]

well thx for informing me of the facts. i obviously won't be doing it
now. i was misinformed and it's not gonna kill me to not do this. i
won't break the law. sorry to have wasted anyone's time. i go now

[Kissell13]

we are not encouraging you to leave. We are just making you aware of what is ok and what is not. By all means go out and get another copy of the game and another account in your name and play them. Its fun. :)

[Aerayne]

we are not encouraging you to leave. We are just making you aware of what is ok and what is not. By all means go out and get another copy of the game and another account in your name and play them. Its fun. :)Well thanks. I get easily hurt and offended when accused of lying or someone insults my (lack of) common sense. Truth is, I had a lot of pain meds in me yesterday along with major fibrofog. I read a darn lot to the point that I was really getting ready to throw the monitor out the window....That aside...

It certainly looks fun and challenging. I've done a ton of reading on it and I'm sure I can do it and it would help with instances--not having to search all day for a healer. In game, I'm not quite this slow. It's trying to sort through what I read that gets me. It wasn't that I couldn't find multiplexer links or sites. It was that I couldn't find a good one that wouldn't break me since I'm going to have to pay for at least 1 more account (hopefully 2) along with it. The only free one I found was through curse.com and my comp's been having issues with their site.

The issue with not being able to help my husband level, I never realized it was account sharing. That obviously, I won't even attempt now that I understand it is. But I would love to get up to 3 boxing on my own just because I want 2 healers guaranteed for every instance/raid.

[Vyndree]

Well thanks. I get easily hurt and offended when accused of lying or someone insults my (lack of) common sense.

Many apologies if I helped make you feel that way. :(

If anything, our intentions are good -- we want to make sure you have a happy, safe multiboxing experience and we don't want anything to do with account closures. So if I wave the rules around like crazy maniacs, we really are trying to look out for your best interests. :)

Bansticks are very unhappy experiences -- some of our own members have gotten accidentally bansticked by GMs before due to account inconsistencies -- but luckily they were able to sort things out. So we're awful careful about account-related stuff.

[Marious]

Listen to Vyn sometimes she will slap you around on here but she means well. I have had nothing but good experience out of the info that she post and she has slapped me around some on some of my post but was my own fault :)

As stated you don't want to get banned or get your husbands account banned its bad juju! Now maybe you can call blizz or email them and see how viable it is to get your husbands account switched to you, just argue that you dont want it to be closed so you want to pay for it, then you might be ok.

[Vyndree]

Listen to Vyn sometimes she will slap you around on here but she means well. I have had nothing but good experience out of the info that she post and she has slapped me around some on some of my post but was my own fault

Shh! Don't tell anyone I have a soft side.

I have to keep up my reputation as the evil ToU/Eula wielding, bluepost quoting, threadlocking raid boss!

[Aerayne]

Well thanks. I get easily hurt and offended when accused of lying or someone insults my (lack of) common sense.

Many apologies if I helped make you feel that way. :(

If anything, our intentions are good -- we want to make sure you have a happy, safe multiboxing experience and we don't want anything to do with account closures. So if I wave the rules around like crazy maniacs, we really are trying to look out for your best interests. :)

Bansticks are very unhappy experiences -- some of our own members have gotten accidentally bansticked by GMs before due to account inconsistencies -- but luckily they were able to sort things out. So we're awful careful about account-related stuff.nah, wasn't you or even that subject. i'm very very glad you took the time to let me know so i didn't get banned. that would've hard core sucked. nah what i meant was i read so freakin much yesterday i really was frustrated and just didn't see the freakin links i needed. even now i'm having a hard time with the links provided. some either don't work or they don't go anywhere useful. the only links i found were ones that either cost too much for me or i've already read how hard they were to figure out. i did hear about octopus being good but that is a multimachine isnt it? for some of us, we can do all the reading there is and still have no bloody clue what we're lookin at. i'm a hands on chick. if it's not poetry or a novel, words make me dizzy. 8|

[Vyndree]

i did hear about octopus being good but that is a multimachine isnt it?

Octopus I believe is both. It can be used for either purpose, or for both purposes at the same time. ;)

Basically, what I'd do is this -- decide what you need from a multiplexer and start doing the whole "process of elimination" thing... (I'm assuming you're using the software ('http://dual-boxing.com/wiki/index.php/Software#Available_Software') page, with the little chart at the bottom)

Do you need it just for one machine? Totally ignore the Multi-machine column. Remember: Just because something can be used for multiple machines, doesn't mean it CAN'T be used for a single machine -- it could be useful for either way. :)
Do you need something free? Totally ignore any row that involves a pricetag above $0.
Don't want to have to write your own scripts? Ignore everything that doesn't have a GUI.
Your computer is Windows? Cross out anything that says "mac".

Now look at what's left. Try out a few, and if you get confused let us know the exact step that you're confused about or start a new post that's more specific... For example: "<PRODUCT>: <FEATURE> isn't working after <THESE STEPS>" is a good forum topic that will get peoples' attentions.

Also, once you've decided what you want to install, the guides ('http://dual-boxing.com/wiki/index.php/Guides') section is a really good place to get a how-to on certain products -- some of them have their own step-by-step guides.

[Ughmahedhurtz]

i did hear about octopus being good but that is a multimachine isnt it?

Octopus I believe is both. It can be used for either purpose, or for both purposes at the same time. ;)Correct!

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