I quit cuz of RAF

[nogbog]

This whole non-retrospective Recruit-A-Friend thing has got me bummed, so i've cancelled all 5 accounts.

I enjoy the game and multi-boxing but i want my ez-mode levelling for 30 days. Just to try some of the other classes at a higher level, don't have the spare time to level them the normal way (jobs, life). Blizz hasn't looked after old customers. Content patches don't count because they're an expectation when buying the game/expansion, it's what your subscription pays for.

[xtobbenx]

Totay agree.. I want LESS time consuming on the way to when the game realy begins.. lvl 60+

[shaeman]

RAF is available to you just as it is to everyone with a veteran account.

Rather than quitting all 5 , why not suspend 3, get 3 raf accounts and quick level up a second team.

You could just get away with 3 old wows (not BC) then transfer them to your old accounts for the 60 -70 stretch.

I respect you greatly, but I only see you suffering as a result of this action. (You say you enjoy wow and multiboxing but are going to deny it to yourself in some form of protest that blizzard wont even notice).

[nogbog]

RAF is available to you just as it is to everyone with a veteran account.

Rather than quitting all 5 , why not suspend 3, get 3 raf accounts and quick level up a second team.

You could just get away with 3 old wows (not BC) then transfer them to your old accounts for the 60 -70 stretch.

I respect you greatly, but I only see you suffering as a result of this action. (You say you enjoy wow and multiboxing but are going to deny it to yourself in some form of protest that blizzard wont even notice).New accounts cost too much.
Yeh i'm losing out for now, but i can find other things to be entertained with. It's just a loss in nightly entertainment.
And actually, i'm making my friends suffer too, i've gotten 3 of them to cancel their accounts as well, i introduced the IT department to warcraft and can get a lot of them to cancel as well. We're all casual players with lives so we're not losing a lot. Yeh blizz probably won't notice but i can't stick with a company that isn't loyal to their loyal customers. That's how i see it, i know a lot of ppl will disagree but u know, that's how i see it =)

[shaeman]

Well if it's the way you feel, it's the way you feel.

At the end of the day you always have the option to come back if you miss it.

Personally I view blizzard as a business providing a service (it is afterall what they are). If the service is good enough for what i pay I will keep paying it.

If not then I would leave.

No loyalty to them on my part, no loyalty necessary from them to me. They just have to provide the service level I require.

Just about every type of business I know of gives incentives to new customers that aren't provided to old customers.

[nogbog]

Well if it's the way you feel, it's the way you feel.

At the end of the day you always have the option to come back if you miss it.

Personally I view blizzard as a business providing a service (it is afterall what they are). If the service is good enough for what i pay I will keep paying it.

If not then I would leave.

No loyalty to them on my part, no loyalty necessary from them to me. They just have to provide the service level I require.

Just about every type of business I know of gives incentives to new customers that aren't provided to old customers.I've quit before, not for any reason, just bored of the game. The only reason i came back was to chat with old friends, that's all the game ever was for me. Just a place to hang and chat.
Well.. that was before you guys got me onto multiboxing which has made the much more game fun.

Yeh i have high expectations of companies i guess.

[Otlecs]

I really don't get why you'd quit because others get something you don't, especially when it's as available to you as it is to them!


Blizz hasn't looked after old customers.
There has to be a cut-off somewhere. If they'd made it retrospective, how far should they go back? A week? A month?

Whatever date they chose, it would have been guaranteed to annoy the hell out of anyone who *just* missed out on that date.

It's a no-win situation for them, so they did the right thing here and it's consistent with the way they've handled change in the past.

I hope they make the RaF bonus - or at least something close to it - the standard XP rate for at least 1-60 some time soon though. One way or another, they're going to have to address the "vet wants to create an alt, doesn't want to start from scratch" problem.

[nogbog]

I really don't get why you'd quit because others get something you don't, especially when it's as available to you as it is to them!



Blizz hasn't looked after old customers.
There has to be a cut-off somewhere. If they'd made it retrospective, how far should they go back? A week? A month?

Whatever date they chose, it would have been guaranteed to annoy the hell out of anyone who *just* missed out on that date.

It's a no-win situation for them, so they did the right thing here and it's consistent with the way they've handled change in the past.

I hope they make the RaF bonus - or at least something close to it - the standard XP rate for at least 1-60 some time soon though. One way or another, they're going to have to address the "vet wants to create an alt, doesn't want to start from scratch" problem.I'm just jealous and annoyed.
Honestly it should have been offered to everyone, even if it was something as limited as link 1 friend to your account. They can't lose out of it, server traffic costs because of more ppl playing? More people playing.. that's a good thing.

[Kyudo]

As I've stated before, I believe the 3x XP will eventually become the norm, not just RAF. (or perhaps 2x only, but whatever).

Once wrath comes out I think they'll make it universal as few people will be willing to do the full 1-80 as things stand.

I understand your position though, but it is your choice, the end point is the same, a team of 2,3 4 5 or whatever chars to box. Some people who are levelling 4 or 5 different teams I wager will become overwhelmed by it all when Wrath comes out, unable to decide which team to concentrate on. Sometimes having slightly fewer chars can be an advantage.

[shaeman]

I'm just jealous and annoyed.


That's the key issue, but you have nothing to be jealous or annoyed about.

RAF is available to you just like everyone else - you just aren't willing to pay for it.

[nogbog]

As I've stated before, I believe the 3x XP will eventually become the norm, not just RAF. (or perhaps 2x only, but whatever).

Once wrath comes out I think they'll make it universal as few people will be willing to do the full 1-80 as things stand.

I understand your position though, but it is your choice, the end point is the same, a team of 2,3 4 5 or whatever chars to box. Some people who are levelling 4 or 5 different teams I wager will become overwhelmed by it all when Wrath comes out, unable to decide which team to concentrate on. Sometimes having slightly fewer chars can be an advantage.Yeh, my original plan was just to level 1 character, i enjoy doing questi haven't done before, multi-boxing is a novelty i would have reserved for when i got bored at lvl 80.

The hardest decision right now is who to give all my gold to, i've got like 15k, i was saving up for my epic fliers

[zanthor]

I hope they make the RaF bonus - or at least something close to it - the standard XP rate for at least 1-60 some time soon though. One way or another, they're going to have to address the "vet wants to create an alt, doesn't want to start from scratch" problem.I hope so too, but in the event they don't, by the time my 90 days runs out I'll have a 60 or more of every class :). Of course that doesn't help my Deathknight, but they get a jump start anyhow.

[Skuggomann]

Note to non boxers: Dont let the tremor totem get in the way.

[Ruodhaid]

I would do the same if i RAF worked were i live, but due to the bullshitty 1 x free munth its illigal in Denmark due to crap laws

i would love to try out mages hunter and warlocks even paladins :) but i relly cant find the energy to levels so meny teams whitout the xpbonus

[nogbog]

will.. not.. feed.. troll..

[nogbog]

I would do the same if i RAF worked were i live, but due to the bullshitty 1 x free munth its illigal in Denmark due to crap laws

i would love to try out mages hunter and warlocks even paladins :) but i relly cant find the energy to levels so meny teams whitout the xpbonusYeah, between gearing up mains it's hard to put in time for new characters.

That's interesting about the demark laws. I remember reading in the news that here, in australia, that it would be illegal for iPhone to forcefully join their chosen mobile/cell phone provider to be able to use their phones (in the US, u had to exclusively use AT&T). I believe they got around it by allowing multiple providers to be able to use the phone.

[Naysayer]

If it was just a chat room for you, why do you care what character you chat on?

[nogbog]

If it was just a chat room for you, why do you care what character you chat on?ok i lied, it was mostly just a chat room

[Naysayer]

will.. not.. feed.. troll..Skuggomann just sayin what everyone is thinking. You're a little tremor totem right now. You even got your buddies to quit because of your fit. Calm down and relax. If you need a break then take a break, big deal. If you want the 3x exp then shell out the $40, link them with two of your vet accounts, and then boost your group of 4 with your main.

[nogbog]

will.. not.. feed.. troll..Skuggomann just sayin what everyone is thinking. You're a little tremor totem right now. You even got your buddies to quit because of your fit. Calm down and relax. If you need a break then take a break, big deal. If you want the 3x exp then shell out the $40, link them with two of your vet accounts, and then boost your group of 4 with your main.All true, but it wasn't necessary to throw insults around.

[Naysayer]

Start a couple trial accounts that are linked to a couple main accounts and just play to lvl20 with different squads until you're ready to drop the 40$ for full accounts imo.


Yes I changed the font, because I'm awesome.

[Sarduci]

As I've stated before, I believe the 3x XP will eventually become the norm, not just RAF. (or perhaps 2x only, but whatever).

Once wrath comes out I think they'll make it universal as few people will be willing to do the full 1-80 as things stand.

I understand your position though, but it is your choice, the end point is the same, a team of 2,3 4 5 or whatever chars to box. Some people who are levelling 4 or 5 different teams I wager will become overwhelmed by it all when Wrath comes out, unable to decide which team to concentrate on. Sometimes having slightly fewer chars can be an advantage.I'd agree that they'd have to cut the XP requirements even more. Or just start everyone at 55 once you have a toon at lvl 55 on a server. The Cool Factor of having the high abilities and hanging out with your friends will eventually be overriden by a 23 day /played just the get there, causeing the user base to erode.

[Frosty]

I don't know why Blizzard doesn't just offer an option to pay a little more per month to get the RAF bonus on normal accounts.
I've worked hard on the accounts I have to get where I'm at now..and I don't really want to start over again.

I've got my group to 49 in the same ammount of time people have gotten 3+ groups to 60. :)

[Korruptor]

Hell, I had just upgraded three accounts to BC just before this RAF change came out.

It's took me a week to convince myself to drop my three new accounts for three RAF's but it was well worth it. I don't even plan on transferring my shaman off of those accounts since I can level up a ton of groups during this RAF period.

Yep, I was a bit pissed initially but I got over it.

[Mendicant]

New accounts cost too much.
Wrong. Getting new accounts is actually CHEAPER.

If, as someone above suggested, you suspend 3 accounts and buy 3 new ones:

Cost for 3 battlechests: $30 ea = $90
Value of free month which comes with it: $15 ea = $45
Value of free month which comes for refering them: $15 ea = $45
Value of the 10 free days you get with the new accounts = $15/30*10 ea = $15

Essentially you get $15 of play time for free by doing it.

[Tonuss]

Two months ago RAF wasn't an option the way it is today and you were still playing then.I think this is the important point here. Blizzard didn't take anything away from you, they added something that you feel is just far enough out of reach for your liking. I wouldn't quit over it, much less ask other people to quit, because the game hasn't really become less fun for you, you simply wish they'd have done the RAF differently. Which means that after a while it won't bug you anymore and you'll want to return.

[nogbog]

Two months ago RAF wasn't an option the way it is today and you were still playing then.I think this is the important point here. Blizzard didn't take anything away from you, they added something that you feel is just far enough out of reach for your liking. I wouldn't quit over it, much less ask other people to quit, because the game hasn't really become less fun for you, you simply wish they'd have done the RAF differently. Which means that after a while it won't bug you anymore and you'll want to return.Mmm good point
i'm just an impulsive old man, it didn't bug me till today.

But i still think it's worth the discussion, the different point of views, which is why i like forums, if u can look past some of the teen kid comments.

[Drizzit]

Think the real reason he is quiting is cause he found out about this best mmo ('http://www.hellokittyonline.com/us/') that is coming out soon

[nogbog]

Think the real reason he is quiting is cause he found out about this best mmo ('http://www.hellokittyonline.com/us/') that is coming out soonMy secret is out!

Edit: seriously, how awesome does it look, wonder if u can multibox it =P

[Stabface]

OK so... I checked my mailbox in game just now and I do NOT see any of your stuff in it.
This is obviously a huge oversight that needs to be corrected at your earliest convenience.

:)

[gigauae]

although i agree some how with the OP, but considering the time value i think it worth to get a new account and RAF to ur self, then u have the option wither to move the toons to ur account, or just abandon the Ol account, or keep em all together

after i did some calculations i canceled 4 accounts, and started new ones for the sake of raf, i think the license fees is a slightly more than 1 month subscription, so why not just get new one, but extra license for tbc is gonna be a little more, imo in the long run it worth it, but again maybe its just me :)

[accretion]

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I've got my group to 49 in the same ammount of time people have gotten 3+ groups to 60. :)*whistles innocently*

[mmcookies]

eh, I know how you feel. I went full-on 5-boxing less than 3 weeks before the RAF came out, but hell i ain't quitting over it.

wow is ez-mode leveling any way you look at it. realistically with 3x experience i'll just end up leveling 3x as many alt teams, lol.