Suggestions for improvement on my macros for crowd control.

[Frosty]

I've recently switched over to use focus for following and assisting.
This causes a slight problem when I want to sheep/shackle/banish a secondary target repeatedly while fighting another mob.

I've come up with a solution for my group, but I'm wondering if anyone has any suggestions to make it more efficient.
Right now, I don't have a focus set on the party leader, so I use that for the target I want to keep out of the picture.
I just have to click the focus..and then hit my macro key.

Here's what I have so far (I'm doing this from memory, so the set raid target isn't correct).

Paladin keys:

Alt1 key:
/stopattack
#/set raid target 7
/focus

Alt2 key:
/stopattack
#/set raid target 8
/focus

Alt3 key:
/stopattack
#/set raid target 5
/focus

Mage Key:

Alt1 key:
/stopcasting
/assist [target=focus, noharm]
/assist [target=focus, noharm]
/p Sheeping %T
/cast Polymorph

Priest Key:

Alt2 key:
/stopcasting
/assist [target=focus, noharm]
/assist [target=focus, noharm]
/p Shackling %T
/cast Shackle Undead

WarlockKey:

Alt3 key:
/stopcasting
/assist [target=focus, noharm]
/assist [target=focus, noharm]
/p Banishing %T
/cast Banish

[olipcs]

Hi,

one question, when you are using your focus for assisting and following (which means, the focus of your toons is set to the leader), why not simple using the 'target' of a toon for the cc-target, cause you don't need to target an enemy to dps him.

DPS-Macro-Example:
(simple dps-cast for the warlock)

/cast [target=focustarget,harm] shadowbolt

then you could use the target of your toons for asigning cc, by targeting the mob which should be cc-ed with your leader, an using the follwoing makro on your toon which should cc the target:

/target [target=focustarget]

For the actual cc you can then use the following macro (here for the mage):

/stopcasting
/cast [harm,nodead] [target=focustarget,harm,nodead] Polymorph

This would try to cast Polymorph on the current target of the toon (which would be the befor the battle assigned cc-target) or if this wasn't set,is freindly or dead would try to cast it on the current target of the main.

[Frosty]

I think I understand what you are saying. But I think there is (or was?) a problem with cast sequences not resetting if you don't change your real target.
I know I ran into this before, and I think it's why I started using /assist focus.

[olipcs]

Argh, right! There would be a problem with reset=target in castsequences....

..sry, i was writting the above from sratch, i personaly use this the other way around, meaning:

I use the actual target for the dps-target, and focus for cc.
Defining who is the leader I do by using a modified ftl-aproach (see:Focusless, targetless, 'leaderless' setup. ('http://www.dual-boxing.com/forums/index.php?page=Thread&postID=107654#post107654') )

in this aproach reset=target works, cause i'm actual targeting the mob to dps.
Do you use keyclone? -Perhaps a similar setup would work for you?
-personaly I find it very usefull for switching the leader "on the fly".

[Frosty]

hrmm..I could have sworn I read that thread. The only reason I'm using /focus now is to change leaders on the fly.
If I can get around it, then I'd love to have my focus back for cc.
And yes, I am using KeyClone too. :)

Thanks for the suggestions!

[Frosty]

Ah, after reading some of that I remembered why I just went with focus.

I have 1 assist key, and 1 follow key.
And what I was running into was when I would change leaders, swap PiP to the leader, the macro was failing due to the leader always assisting party1..and losing the actual target.
If there was a way to /stopmacro [if_you_are_the_leader] it would be awesome. I just gave up and wanted to get back to playing so I left it. :p

[olipcs]

actual there is the option "/stopmacro [if_you_are_the_leader]" by simply using a "/stopmacro [nomod]" i think.


I have 1 assist key, and 1 follow key. Take a closer look, to the modification I described (post 59 on the thread), it sounds exactly like what you are looking for.
I'm also using this with an "assist" and "follow" key, where you have to hit the assist key everytime you want your "slaves" to change their target.
The benefit of it is, that you can target other mobs with your main (for me my tank) than your toons are dpsing.
Another benefit is, that you only have to setup keybindings for 2 "Buttons" in keyclone, not for every ability.

[Zuri]

I used to use:

Assist Macro
/a [target=focus, party][target=party1]

Follow macro
/f focus
/stopmacro [target=focus, help]
/f party1

Both work fine as long as your master char has focus set to himself.

[Frosty]

@OLIPCS - I'll read further into it and probably give it a shot tonight.
I only PvE, and liked to have my slave toons keep DPS'ing while being able to switch targets too.
I see we are also running similar groups..but I have a resto shaman and shadow priest. :p

Thanks again for the help!



I used to use:

Assist Macro
/a [target=focus, party][target=party1]

Follow macro
/f focus
/stopmacro [target=focus, help]
/f party1

Both work fine as long as your master char has focus set to himself.
This would probably work, but my main goal was to be able to use a crowd control setup again.

[Zuri]

I used to use:

Assist Macro
/a [target=focus, party][target=party1]

Follow macro
/f focus
/stopmacro [target=focus, help]
/f party1

Both work fine as long as your master char has focus set to himself.
This would probably work, but my main goal was to be able to use a crowd control setup again.

I normally run with Paladin as the master and use focus for CC on my mages, lock, and priest so the above works ok for me.

[Frosty]

actual there is the option "/stopmacro [if_you_are_the_leader]" by simply using a "/stopmacro [nomod]" i think.




I have 1 assist key, and 1 follow key. Take a closer look, to the modification I described (post 59 on the thread), it sounds exactly like what you are looking for.
I'm also using this with an "assist" and "follow" key, where you have to hit the assist key everytime you want your "slaves" to change their target.
The benefit of it is, that you can target other mobs with your main (for me my tank) than your toons are dpsing.
Another benefit is, that you only have to setup keybindings for 2 "Buttons" in keyclone, not for every ability.Ok, I went back to the first post of that thread and read all the way to yours, and you are right! It is exactly what I'm looking for.
It just took me a little bit to grasp the concept of host-strings an stuch in Keyclone. I'll be setting that up tonight! :D

[Piros]

I want to control crows =(

[Frosty]

I want to control crows =(

LOL! It took me a bit to figure out what you were talking about. :P

I fixed it now.

[olipcs]

Ok, I went back to the first post of that thread and read all the way to yours, and you are right! It is exactly what I'm looking for.
nice, i'm glad I could point you to some usefull informations :)
It just took me a little bit to grasp the concept of host-strings an stuch in Keyclone. I'll be setting that up tonight! yeah, I also had to read it 2 or 3 times to understand the beauty of the system, but till then i'm simply blown away by it :)
For the setup: Take some time to do it, it is a little bit complex and if you want to try first if you understood the concept, perhaps only do it for 2 or 3 of your toons.
Some things to remember for a successful setup:

- make sure, that you didn't have already bindings of your assist and follow key with modifiers. (i had an binding for shift+1, while using 1 as assist-key, this caused a little of "why the heck doesn't it work...")
- don't use F1....F12 for the two keys (some users had problems with this

[Frosty]

This works GREAT!! Thanks again for pointing me in the right direction. :D

It took me about an hour to get all 5 set up...and then I went back and set all my CC up with focus too. :thumbsup:
Made a run through and instance and everything worked smoothly.