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Littleburst
09-02-2008, 05:00 PM
Rogues are really annoying me.

Clos + vanish is annoying enough, but the sapping in AV when i'm travelling somewhere really does it. :thumbdown:

When a slave/my main gets sapped while mounted i dismount, drop magma totems and wait for the sap to go away, pop ghostwolf, run 100 yards and remount. Some how a rogue expected this, used sprint while stealthed and sapped me again while i just mounted up.

Any tips/tricks to pop them out of stealth and rape them?

magwo
09-02-2008, 05:44 PM
Improved (2 sec to fire) novas help a little bit, it increases your chance to pop the rogue.. otherwise no.. just try to avoid them.
I just played an EOTS against 7 rogues.. you have to plan your travelling very carefully. Ride in big circles, avoid the "shortest routes".

defactoman
09-02-2008, 05:46 PM
1. Dismount
2. Drop your choice of AOE totem
3. Ghostwolf the non-sapped characters
4. Quickly ghost wolf your main when sap wears off
5. Stay in ghost until you 1) find the rogue or 2) get to your desintation

If you find the rogue, kill him or if he escapes, ghost wolf and continue on to your destination.

xtobbenx
09-02-2008, 05:54 PM
You should not rape rogues mate.. ! :O

magwo
09-02-2008, 05:55 PM
You should not rape rogues mate.. ! :OSex offenders take note.

merujo
09-03-2008, 06:53 AM
against any good rogue, magma wont work. i have a rogue myself, and the range that i have for sapping is huge... i could really be annoying at a multiboxer if i want.
Distract is also very annoying, thats why i learned to watch my group constantly. If i get sapped i just go on ghost wolf...couldnt care less.

Nixi
09-03-2008, 08:18 AM
Anymore in Battlegrounds I just travel from place to place using Ghost Wolf. I rarely mount anymore. I still check the opposing team's roster, and if they don't have any rogues I'll go back to using my mount, but I'm never that lucky.

In WSG, I'll start crossing the the map using my mount, but I dismount and go ghost wolf after about midfield. I hammer my /follow button on that map. It's particularly prone to having an abundance of rogues.
Same thing for most maps at the start; use mount at the beginning when you know rogues aren't around.

Naysayer
09-03-2008, 08:23 AM
Rogues are really annoying me.

Clos + vanish is annoying enough, but the sapping in AV when i'm travelling somewhere really does it. :thumbdown:

When a slave/my main gets sapped while mounted i dismount, drop magma totems and wait for the sap to go away, pop ghostwolf, run 100 yards and remount. Some how a rogue expected this, used sprint while stealthed and sapped me again while i just mounted up.

Any tips/tricks to pop them out of stealth and rape them?You kids and your tendency to toss around the word "rape" as if there was nothing wrong with it. :thumbdown:

Tizer
09-03-2008, 09:27 AM
I hammer my /follow button on that map. It's particularly prone to having an abundance of rogues.

I've not had to hammer my follow key since i downloaded the keepfollow addon that came up in the addon section a few weeks back. So distracts dont really do much. Same for when im swimming in AB (which is rare) i can jump as much as i like in the water and the addon keeps the slaves on follow. Similar with fears, i know they will automatically regroup.

Its a great addon, im suprised it hasnt had more praise.

shockernub
09-03-2008, 10:18 AM
I hammer my /follow button on that map. It's particularly prone to having an abundance of rogues.

I've not had to hammer my follow key since i downloaded the keepfollow addon that came up in the addon section a few weeks back. So distracts dont really do much. Same for when im swimming in AB (which is rare) i can jump as much as i like in the water and the addon keeps the slaves on follow. Similar with fears, i know they will automatically regroup.

Its a great addon, im suprised it hasnt had more praise.

I looked at that addon, you sure it isn't automation? how does it keep working if it doesn't require you to give any input? I'm a bit leary.

Littleburst
09-03-2008, 11:20 AM
A few examples:

If i have a healer with me as fifth person i always defend balinda and whipe the horde there 8/10 times. So we(me and my healer) were waiting outside, behind a small hill. After the horde enters we run in behind them, but i get sapped, then a slave get's sapped. When both saps ended the horde were done with Balinda and came back out and zerged me. Just because of a damn rogue. Smart play of the rogue, i fully agree, but still annoying. Because the effect it has is huge(balinda dead or not). Next time i'll just run in with 3 instead of 4 if one gets sapped.

The same story goes for the healer getting chainsapped. I still lack resilience so i can't keep myself up vs 15 horde.

While going to offense across mid *sap*. Now i'll just use ghost wolf till i'm at my destination :)

It's just the idea about it. A rogue can easily hold 5 alliance up with a single sap, while i can't do anything to kill/annoy him back.

Tizer
09-04-2008, 04:13 AM
That will teach you for being chicken and not going into Balindas room facing the horde in a manly way! ;)

I play horde, so i run into Galvs room, stand on top of him, drop all my totems, drop 4 fire eles and pop a bloodlust as soon as i hear a dismounting ally.

The fire eles bring the rogues out of stealth and the killing begins :)

As for the being sapped issue, i use my spread appart macro, drop nova totems and get into wolf asap, then have a run around slapping tab / 3 to target them and then shock. Not much else you can do :o

Tizer
09-04-2008, 04:23 AM
I hammer my /follow button on that map. It's particularly prone to having an abundance of rogues.

I've not had to hammer my follow key since i downloaded the keepfollow addon that came up in the addon section a few weeks back. So distracts dont really do much. Same for when im swimming in AB (which is rare) i can jump as much as i like in the water and the addon keeps the slaves on follow. Similar with fears, i know they will automatically regroup.

Its a great addon, im suprised it hasnt had more praise.

I looked at that addon, you sure it isn't automation? how does it keep working if it doesn't require you to give any input? I'm a bit leary.

I don't see that being any more automated than an addon that automatically accepts you into a battleground after so many seconds. ^^

Littleburst
09-04-2008, 08:08 AM
That will teach you for being chicken and not going into Balindas room facing the horde in a manly way! ;)

I play horde, so i run into Galvs room, stand on top of him, drop all my totems, drop 4 fire eles and pop a bloodlust as soon as i hear a dismounting ally.

The fire eles bring the rogues out of stealth and the killing begins :)

As for the being sapped issue, i use my spread appart macro, drop nova totems and get into wolf asap, then have a run around slapping tab / 3 to target them and then shock. Not much else you can do :oI ran in balinda's room before horde did a couple of times, but when the horde are with 15+ against me + my healer. Me being in mostly questgear and 250 resi that just doesn't cut it normally. I get killed in seconds if they focus fire on one char. If i enter after the horde, they focus on Balinda and maybe a few horde attack me, the majority just keeps nuking Balinda. Option 2 is, exept when a rogue thinks smart, a lot saver, because i have a lot less horde on me and a better chance to stay alive. Since i can outheal the damage of quite a lot of horde on balinda. 4x Healing wave will heal up a lot on Balinda.

I guess there's nothing to counter it and i'll just continue like i was doing :) Thanks for the input.