Starting WOTLK with a chunk of XP

[nogbog]

Would it be a good idea to have 25x level 70 elite/group quests completed in your quest log and then handing them when the expansion comes round just to start off a bit ahead of everyone else?

Updated 28th August 2008 - Doesn't work, completed quests get 0 XP

[Aethon]

Only if you don't need the money. That's actually a really good idea, btw. At least, it sounds like it, hopefully they'll give you XP once they raise the level cap.

Anyone else know how the quest completed=gold works? Is it determined on quest pickup, complete, or turn in? If it's either of the first 2, then I don't think it'll work.

[Jayded1]

I plan to have 25 quests complete. I am sure others do as well.

[Naysayer]

You could use the dailies as well if you run out of good quests. The Quel'Dannas(sp?) dailies are all level 70 so they'll give really good experience.

[Drizzit]

I'll probably continue to do dailies for the first week until people went to the second zone. That should probably put me to 71 or hopefully 72.

[Pengster]

That's actually a really good idea, btw. At least, it sounds like it, hopefully they'll give you XP once they raise the level capI guess somebody that played the beta should be able to answer this right?

[Perrigrin]

I'll probably continue to do dailies for the first week until people went to the second zone. That should probably put me to 71 or hopefully 72.Doesnt repeatable quests only give xp the first hand in? Or was that some other game?

[Lorune]

I did this from Vannila wow to TBC

It works only with non repeatable quests.

[Void]

I thought they were lowering the exp for those type of quests in some way just for that reason. i dunno maybe i was misinformed.

[Darcla]

I'll probably continue to do dailies for the first week until people went to the second zone. That should probably put me to 71 or hopefully 72.Doesnt repeatable quests only give xp the first hand in? Or was that some other game?

repeatable quests.. yes.. you only get the exp on the first turn in (ex. unidentified plant parts).

Daily quests, you get exp each time. (ex. Battleground dailies, SSO, Hellfire , etc.)

[puppychow]

don't "save" completed quests right now, its not a good idea. The week before WOTLK goes live you can slowly fill up your quest log with completed quests, and then turn them all in when wotlk goes live. Jamming up your quest log with 20 completed quests now and having only 5 free for months isn't fun, since its much easier doing the dailies and such when you can grab 10+ quests at a time. Or if they somehow put out patches with new daily hubs, or if WOTLK is delayed, you don't want your quest log always filled up for months.

[Naysayer]

I'll probably continue to do dailies for the first week until people went to the second zone. That should probably put me to 71 or hopefully 72.Doesnt repeatable quests only give xp the first hand in? Or was that some other game?Dailies give experience every time unless you are exp capped.

[TheBigBB]

It's all going to even out in the end. Turn them in now for more gold or have more quests left over in WOTLK for more gold.

[Naysayer]

It's all going to even out in the end. Turn them in now for more gold or have more quests left over in WOTLK for more gold.Not sure what you mean by that. He'll be level 71 right away after launch by turning in completed quests. He'll be 1 level ahead of most people. How does that even out?

[TheBigBB]

It's all going to even out in the end. Turn them in now for more gold or have more quests left over in WOTLK for more gold.Not sure what you mean by that. He'll be level 71 right away after launch by turning in completed quests. He'll be 1 level ahead of most people. How does that even out?There's no way it'd be a whole level. And yes, it would even out. Everyone who turns in those quests will get 200-300G per character NOW, and have to do 20 more quests later. He'll get 20 quests of exp NOW and get gold from his quests later. Unless, of course, he stops questing at 80, in which case, well he's going to have to get his gold from somewhere. Not really saving time. It's not like you can magically begin in the middle of WOTLK quest chains just because you have more exp. He's still going to have to begin at square 1 in questing.

[Alieon]

would be a good idea, however dont over estimate the amount of XP you wil be geting

@19K XP per quest - handing 25 Q in will award 475K XP

Blizz recently set the 70-71 XP threshold at 1,256,500 XP

therefore youll be starting with around 1/3rd of a level, and for the effort of flying around 5 areas in ouland when you could be checking out all the new content i dont think its worth it imo



hi btw :)

[odon]

I think I read some blue about completed quest at expansion launch not giving any XP. It seemed it was the same thing for BC.

BTW, I play WOTLK beta. Northrend quest: 15k to 30k xp for any small quest, more XP from mobs, and 1,2 to 1,5M XP required for 71. A full completed BC-questlog should value aroud 300 to 500k I think which is third of a level and no more than 2 to 4 hours in Northrend. Get the golds !

[Drizzit]

Well if you think about it you are already ahead of the game. WotLK will probably be like BC meaning that you can go there 2 levels lower then what you are. Sense you are going to be 70 you are already ahead of the curve.

[Otlecs]

the effort of flying around 5 areas in ouland when you could be checking out all the new content i dont think its worth it imo

BTW, I play WOTLK beta. Northrend quest: 15k to 30k xp for any small quest, more XP from mobs
These both make perfect sense to me.

I'd rather spend the time in Northrend - even if it means competing with people for kills - than doing whatever quests I have left over in Outland and just sitting on them for a relatively modest amount of XP as a jump-start.

Of course, if you're hoping for one of those snazzy server-first achievement titles then it might still be worth considering :)

[Drizzit]

snazzy server-first achievement titles

A title of "First Server Death Knight" would be cool, but it will probably go to someone that will either quit wow, delete the toon, or just not use it.

[Aethon]

He's stated the quests are already completed (or will be by launch). It takes, what, maybe an hour tops to fly around and turn all those quests in? Is an hour less of time in Northrend really that big a difference? It's not like Blizzard has said "here's the expansion, it'll only be around for another 27 hours then we shut it down; explore it while you can."

I think it's a great idea, 350-450K xp up on people for only an hours' worth of work (not counting the time he took to do the quests, which is moot at this point) is pretty awesome, I think.

[Drizzit]

It's not like Blizzard has said "here's the expansion, it'll only be around for another 27 hours then we shut it down

probably more like this, 1 month after the release "here's the new expansion, that will be out in 11 months, with better gear and cap is now 90. So don't grind for gear too much"

That is how i felt when i heard WotLK came out :( wanted to box more then 2 months at lvl 70. By the time i get my money for my 300 flying and my netherwing and nether ray mounts the WotLK will be out :(

[Frosty]

I'll be happy if I even make it to 70 with my new accounts (no RAF). :P

[Dominian]

The xp recruired to level WILL be higher in WOTLK just like it is from azeroth to outlands! Personally i will head indoors at the start of WOTLK trying out the new instances. When the majority have left the starting areas i might head back if i not decide to completly level in instances. I wont have a easy life on a pvp server directly after WOTLK launch, just imagine all the grouped people there will be. :P

[JoeWunsch]

It's all going to even out in the end. Turn them in now for more gold or have more quests left over in WOTLK for more gold.Not sure what you mean by that. He'll be level 71 right away after launch by turning in completed quests. He'll be 1 level ahead of most people. How does that even out?There's no way it'd be a whole level. And yes, it would even out. Everyone who turns in those quests will get 200-300G per character NOW, and have to do 20 more quests later. He'll get 20 quests of exp NOW and get gold from his quests later. Unless, of course, he stops questing at 80, in which case, well he's going to have to get his gold from somewhere. Not really saving time. It's not like you can magically begin in the middle of WOTLK quest chains just because you have more exp. He's still going to have to begin at square 1 in questing.You guys are talking about 2 completely different things.

He wants to get a quick boost in XP from having 25 quests completed, once servers come up after WOTLK handing them in for some real fast XP and a fast ding...

You are talking about how much gold you would get compared to saving the quests or doing them now.... He doesn't care about gold, or which is more or less, he is doing it just for the real fast 70-71 ding...

[TheBigBB]

You guys are talking about 2 completely different things.

He wants to get a quick boost in XP from having 25 quests completed, once servers come up after WOTLK handing them in for some real fast XP and a fast ding...

You are talking about how much gold you would get compared to saving the quests or doing them now.... He doesn't care about gold, or which is more or less, he is doing it just for the real fast 70-71 ding...Are you aware that quest exp gets converted into gold once you're level capped?

Of course he cares about gold. How else do you buy enchants, materials, potions, repairs, etc? He says himself that he does dailies!

He can turn in those quests for a quick 300G on each toon NOW or he can save it for exp and make gold from quest exp and level 80 dailies a few hours before he normally would have. I don't see the difference. In the big picture, once he's level 80 it's not going to make much difference at all. Unless he plans on totally ignoring all questing content at 80, he's going to break even in the long run.

[JoeWunsch]

You guys are talking about 2 completely different things.

He wants to get a quick boost in XP from having 25 quests completed, once servers come up after WOTLK handing them in for some real fast XP and a fast ding...

You are talking about how much gold you would get compared to saving the quests or doing them now.... He doesn't care about gold, or which is more or less, he is doing it just for the real fast 70-71 ding...Are you aware that quest exp gets converted into gold once you're level capped?

Of course he cares about gold. How else do you buy enchants, materials, potions, repairs, etc? He says himself that he does dailies!

He can turn in those quests for a quick 300G on each toon NOW or he can save it for exp and make gold from quest exp and level 80 dailies a few hours before he normally would have. I don't see the difference. In the big picture, once he's level 80 it's not going to make much difference at all. Unless he plans on totally ignoring all questing content at 80, he's going to break even in the long run.Yes I am aware... But like I said, the goal here is not to get the most gold, it is to get a bump of xp when WoTLK comes out.

You keep turning this discussion into a direction he didn't intent, he does not care about getting less gold, he is not doing this to get extra gold. i'm sure he realized he would not get as much gold from the quests himself... since he is now getting xp and not bonus gold.

He is doing it to get fast xp right when WoTLK is released.

I didn't mean he doesnt care about gold at all.. I meant in this instance, in this "scheme", getting the most gold is not a factor.


I don't see the difference.

The difference that you don't see, is the entire point of what he is saying. He is trying to get a lead on everyone else. Think about it, when WoTLK comes out most people will not have any quests to turn in, and will head right to northrend.

He will have 25 quests ready to hand in, which could very well be able to bring him right to 71.. This gives him a HUGE lead on the rest of the server.

Thats why he is doing this... To get a lead on XP.

You are thinking about the long run, this thread is about the short term fast boost in xp the first day.

[Rowdysattva]

for what its worth achievements last for 1 minute so anyone who completes it within that same minute also gets the award

So if there was one for DK and in the first minutes 1,220 people made DK they would all get the award

Same with all the achievements

[nogbog]

I don't care about gold.

I just want to be a little bit ahead, a little bit closer to 71.

I've actually thought about and i will only be playing 1 character to 80 because i enjoy doing quests and want to read the quests stories and stuff. I'll be levelling my other 4 warlocks when my main is 80 and has done most of the instances already. Multiboxing ruins the questing experience for new content imo

[Zub]

I don't care about gold.

I just want to be a little bit ahead, a little bit closer to 71.

I've actually thought about and i will only be playing 1 character to 80 because i enjoy doing quests and want to read the quests stories and stuff. I'll be levelling my other 4 warlocks when my main is 80 and has done most of the instances already. Multiboxing ruins the questing experience for new content imo

Even regarding gold, in the long run i'm sure having 25 quest completed at level 70 will help.
Since you'll get about a ~400k xp headstart, you'll need less northrend quests to get to 80, and i'm pretty sure those 20-25 extra quests in Northrend you'll be able to do at max level 80 will net you more gold than the 25 at max level 70.

dunno if i'm clear tho lol.
unfortunately i've pretty much exhausted my whole quest log on my 2 main toons, and my MB'd triplets are only 63 atm. hoping for 70 by the time Wotlk hits

[Suvega]

Sorry to burst everyone's bubble but:

JUST LIKE WHEN BC LAUNCHED, ANY QUESTS COMPLETED IN YOUR QUEST LOG WILL REWARD 0 EXP.


Heh, back to the old drawing board eh?

[nogbog]

Sorry to burst everyone's bubble but:

JUST LIKE WHEN BC LAUNCHED, ANY QUESTS COMPLETED IN YOUR QUEST LOG WILL REWARD 0 EXP.


Heh, back to the old drawing board eh?weak. sauce. =(

[Suvega]

Sorry to burst everyone's bubble but:

JUST LIKE WHEN BC LAUNCHED, ANY QUESTS COMPLETED IN YOUR QUEST LOG WILL REWARD 0 EXP.


Heh, back to the old drawing board eh?weak. sauce. =(

Pwnd ;)

[Jayded1]

Spend the time in Northrend? I don't think you understand his meaning. The day before WotLK opens do 25 quests and don't turn them in. And I am not sure what one poster is talking about, i had quests in quest log for BC and I got the exp.

[TheBigBB]

Joe, my comment was supposed to bring up a new point; I did what I intended to do. It's a discussion - people have differing opinions.

Now for an example to help you out:

Let's say "Mike" has two 5-box teams:

On team 1, Mike does 520 quests (20 carried into the expansion) and hits 80 on the 500th quest, giving him 20 quests worth of exp converted to gold.

On team 2, Mike does 520 quests and hits 80 on the 520th quest because the first 20 quests he handed in before he bought the expansion and got gold for them.

They would pretty much break even in terms of actual time and effort put in.

I don't know how much more clear I can be about it, but THIS is the reason that *I* would not do this, forgetting the fact that Bliz seems to have not been allowing any experience from saved-up quests. My point in posting this idea was to get the OP to think about it in a new way. If he doesn't agree it's fine, but don't pretend that my post was somehow missing the point.

[Drizzit]

Let's say "Mike" has two 5-box teams:

On team 1, Mike does 520 quests (20 carried into the expansion) and hits 80 on the 500th quest, giving him 20 quests worth of exp converted to gold.

On team 2, Mike does 520 quests and hits 80 on the 520th quest because the first 20 quests he handed in before he bought the expansion and got gold for them.

Holly confusion batman. all i can say is wow, just wow... I read that 10 times (maybe cause it is lunch time and i haven't eaten so cannot focus), but i am so lost. K, if mike's end goal is to get to 80, in example 1 why would he do the additional 20 quests, why didn't he just do the 500.

Also in example 1 he would get more gold with the last 20 quests because they give higher xp then the old 20 quests.

[Naysayer]

on team 3 mike would just do dailies at level 80 if he cared about gold...

[Drizzit]

team 3

what now there is a team 3... yea going to get something to eat now.