Different caster classes, workable with castsequence macros?

[Griznah]

So, I've finished my first team to 60 (basically) and thinking of what else to do now.
and for an awesome synergy group, I was thinking of having:
Protpala tank
And a mix of two:
MoonkinDruid
ElementalShammy
Mage
and then
Shadowpriest
Holypriest
So, this is obviously alot of classes to play around with, but for pure DPS'ing, wouldn't it work ok with
having castsequence macro for each class? That way I have just one key to mash and all my DPS'ers would do their cycle
pretty good, right?
The only "synergy" the mage brings to the table is portals, intbuff and food/water, but is some very nice shit.
I could ofc, bring in a hunter, but the whole synergyaspect is lost then.
Atm, I'm leaning towards Pala, shaman, mage and the two priests.
Well, so, anyone think this is workable as a "noob" multiboxer?

[Knapenburger]

Its got fail written all over it.

Unless you somehow perfectly arrange all the key bindings and cast sequences it could work. However you wont be able to maximise your DPS with so many different classes.

Why not 3 mages, 1 priest, 1 pala? Thats pretty much the same as 1 pala 4 shamans but one is reserved for healing, which is what I do.

[Griznah]

Explain why it would fail? And why won't I be able to maximize the DPS?
Ofc it has to be perfectionized castsequences, this is scenarios where no mobs are loose, everything is tanked etc.
My setup will include pala+2 priests no matter what. And the reason for different classes is synergy.
CC is not to be used, bruteforce all the way baby!

[Kulzor]

My dps group consists of:
BM Hunter
Elemental Shaman
Moonkin Druid
Frost Mage

My instance running group (where I need to run the tank and healer):
BM Hunter
Prot Paladin
Resto Druid
Elemental Shaman

Both sets work fine with a lot of macro castsequences. Barring using Righteous Defense (on RARE occasion), and removing poison and curses with the resto druid, everything generally works off a few keys.
3=Start fight on new mob (send pet in, pally hits seal of the crusader or wisdom depending on what I'm doing)
4=Multishot/Chain Lightning
5=Main Castsequence (use trinkets, specials, main shots/bolts)

It works quite well. Plus, it *sounds* like the full elemental shaman group may be nerfed with Wrath by them making totems not stack. (Yeah, jury's still out on it...but their minds are pretty made up already.)

I've run the entire dps group into Kara as four of the five dpsers for the team and they worked fine. If you have to run around on boss fights it becomes rough though (in any instance for me).

[Caanus]

This may not apply as much since I'm only 2-boxing, but I have a warlock and a mage. Right now they're only lvl 21 each. I have key 2 bound to a cast sequence on my warlock (the "leader") that goes Immolate,Curse of Agony,Corruption,Drain life, Drain Life, Drain Life. It's also set for [nochanneling] so I can spam it without restarting the drain life. On my mage, key 2 is a simple /assist leadername /cast fireball. So as I sit there spamming my warlock macro, my mage happily peppers my target with fireballs. Yes it's simplistic but so far it works for me. I'll be redoing the mage macro to add in Pyroblast if it's up.

Edit: I should note that I'm new to Multiboxing so I'm keeping things simple as I learn the ropes.

[Frosty]

I'm running 5 different classes (see sig) and have no problems at all with castsequences.
Some of them have instant spells, and others do not..some have channeled spells as well.

I'd like some more info on why this won't work? :)

[pyrem]

Its got fail written all over it.
I'll disagree, look at my sig for the team I run, and I've gotten them all the way to 60 with few problems.

It can be done...granted it is much more difficult than running one or two of the same class, but it's definitely achievable.

I'll refrain from posting my setup details as Kulzor already covered it.

[Vyndree]

1) Shadowpriests do not have a "reliable" dps rotation due to different dot durations and cooldowns. It's the nature of the spec. You basically just keep a "priority list" of "VT needs to always be up, always have a pain up, MB every cooldown, VE when threat isn't an issue and aoe damage, Death when health is high and no chance of dying, Mind flay when you have nothing else to do".

2) Check out this blog post ('http://vboxing.net/v/index.php?q=node/96') I made a little while ago regarding pairing up different classes/roles for multiboxing. It might give you some insight into how you can match up the abilties of your different classes.
http://vboxing.net/v/index.php?q=node/96

[luxlunae]

Ive found cast sequences work just fine with casters... and the real reason to level a group of multiple kinds is just to get as many 70s as possible before wrath to give yourself some flexibility when it hits. I will agree that using multiple classes doesn't synergize as smoothly, and I'd definitely stay away from shadowpriests because they have no spammable ability. I've definitely used an instant cast instant cast long cast matching cast sequence for my lock/priest.

[Doostin]

i love my Pally Boomkin Ele Sham Fire Mage Holy Priest team =p

Cast sequences are the only way to go, i've been tweaking them ever since lvl 40ish, to make sure that each char is getting the most dps they possibly can be.

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc252/dustintalon/WoWScrnShot_082308_122050.jpg

Mage is really more important than just portals/food/water/int, they give u sheep, AoE, and uber dps mana regen. my fire mage finishes most fights with 80% + mana, where as the shaman and boomkin are under half almost every fight. and they all have aobut the same amount of mana with buffs (6500-7000 i think) right now their cast sequences have them pretty close in DPS, mage is highest on boss fights but shaman is usually highest on trash mobs, boomkin is rarely highest but the random crits make her jump ahead sometimes.

[wowphreak]

with good use of cast sequenceing yeh can just about maximize the dps for all of em, As long as yeh understand each class and how it functions.

With good use of reset and modifiers its all good.


how weird yeh almost got the same group setup as me :P
at the moment I'm running prot pali, elemental shammy, bm hunter and a resto druid.
although I'm 4boxing it in instances till I can get a better pc then I'll have a tough choice on what to use for a fith

[hotsuma]

side note warlocks lend themselves really well to cast sequence macros one button can basically do it all

Mages are ok with cast sequence also

shadow priest on the otherhand do not lend themself to castsequence for several reasons

[Griznah]

Yeah, I know about shadowpriests not being ultimate, but the manaregen (and grouphealing) they can provide is something that I feel is very good asset to the rest of the team, specially to the tanking pala.
Since I already have 4 slavepriests, that's why I wanna roll with those.
For castsequencing the priest, I'd only go with: reset=15/target/combat Vampiric Touch, Mind Flay, Mind Blast, Mind Flay, Mind Flay, Mind Flay
and then have VE and SW: P on other hotkeys. I'd ofc have to finetune it abit, but something like this atleast is what I had in mind.

Shaman would be 3LB/1CL and mage..well, that depends on the spec, easiest would be full frost or AP/Frost I guess, since that removes the need for scorching, but AP/Fire is the best spec around 6-800 +dmg(if I remember correct).

[Otlecs]

Interesting discussion.

I don't think you'll ever be able to "maximise" your DPS with that sort of mixed group, but... well, quite honestly... who cares?

You'll pump out enough DPS even if it's sub-optimal.

My first group was a pally tank, priest healer, two mages and a hunter. I could do pretty much *any* PvE content with that group, although it fails horribly at PvP for all the obvious reasons.

Go for it, and let us know what castsequences you end up with once you hit the high levels and have lots of abilities to juggle.

[olipcs]

To show an Example:

I'm running an 5-class Setup with my 3 dps being:

Ele-Shaman
Mage
Warlock

My DPS castsequence Makros for them are:

Shaman:
/castsequence [nomod] reset=3 Lightning Bolt,Lightning Bolt,Lightning Bolt,Chain Lightning

Mage:
/cast Einäschern
/castsequence [nomod] Fire Blast,Fireball,Fireball,Fireball;

Warlock:
showtooltip
/castsequence [nomod] Immolate,Shadowbolt,Shadowbolt,Shadowbolt,Shadowbo lt,Shadowbolt,Shadowbolt;[mod:shift] Curse of Elements,;[mod:ctrl] reset=3 Corruption

This are bound to my DPS-Key "2", "shift+2" is for Target specific Buffs (here Curse of Elements), "ctrl+2" is for DOTs

[Griznah]

Thanks for all the inputand the macros =)
Yeah, I know this setup won't be truly optimal, but my alternative is to just keep running with my 3/4 spriests.
(I love idea of how my team should be unable to run OOM).
With enough mana/-regen, my healer can just spam max ranked heals to make sure the tank stays up. if the tank stays up, mobs go down, it's that easy.
So maybe I will just continue on my Pala+4 priests team. And yeah, this is for pure PvE.
To say again why I wanted to add more classes: to get more synergy. I already have a 70 lock tho..when my team hits 70, maybe change a spriest for that lock instead?
It would mean I will be removing it from PvP servers tho, and I dunno if I want that..
Palatank + 2spriests + warlock + priest = nice group, yeah ?

[Poolboy]

I am finally coming back around to mixed classes now that Ive gotten my head wrapped around a better way to SPAM dps... with the mouswheel =)
Build each classes BEST sequence macros and toss em on a mousewheel bound macro slot... one for up, one for down? Lets say trash is down and boss is up? No more worrying about casting bars, synching volleys of spells up, synergy, etc. Aim with Tank, establish agro, and start slowly scrolling for maximum effect.

I'm doing RAF Paladin team right now using this method... LOL, I never would have given the oft overlooked Paladin melee team a second look if not for mousewheel scrolling. They spam the hell out of a follow with a pile of other stuff loaded into macro. It works amazingly, I never worry about them losing follow as they melee, and the process of driving with WASD and right button as I scroll is fluid. I still leave my heals and other stufff clustered around WASD like always and it seems to work so far so good. On the subject of all pally squad... dont ask me what I'm gonna do when I get into situations vs heavy ranged opponents lulz.

PS - Round Robin middle click Hammer of Justice = WIN.

[Griznah]

I've settled for Protpala, ElementalSham, holy/Disc and 2 shadow priests. This way I can focus everything around the 2 priests and let the shaman be the true slave here.
I think this should be totally workable, atleast I hope so :D
Gonna try it out in a week or 1,5. Gotta get my mages to 59/60 first (since I wanna grantlevel another char).

[Vyndree]

Yeah, I know about shadowpriests not being ultimate, but the manaregen (and grouphealing) they can provide is something that I feel is very good asset to the rest of the team, specially to the tanking pala.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNbFYSXON6Q

Sorry... it's just too good to not post at any mention of a shadowpriest.

[Frosty]

I was almost to the point I wanted to change out my shadow priest for another DPS class.

But, they really shine in instances where mobs don't die instantly. I have 0 downtime right now and hardly have to heal.
I realize not all of my toons are 70 yet, so things may change.
A better breakdown of my toons:

Protection Pally, Fire Mage, Affliction Warlock w/ Imp, Shadow Priest and Resto Shammy.
I may not kill as fast as others, but I don't die or run out of mana either :p

ps - my level 70 gear sucks coming from holy and enhancement specs.

[Frosty]

Yeah, I know about shadowpriests not being ultimate, but the manaregen (and grouphealing) they can provide is something that I feel is very good asset to the rest of the team, specially to the tanking pala.



Sorry... it's just too good to not post at any mention of a shadowpriest.OMG that was great!!!! :P

[Gadzooks]

Add me to the list of people using /castsequence macros just fine.

I'm running a boomkin as leader, and a demon lock and a fire mage. The mage and lock nuke the mob, and the boom has no macro, so i can click what i want - I can heal, vine, or cast, or re-assign focus. It works pretty well, I'm leveling in Hellfire and I'm having no difficulties. My only problem is my macros are too long, the mobs die before the lock gets through his. Keeping the druid off a macro helps too, because her mp5 is horrible, and she ends up standing there with no mana after one mob. This way, i can insect swarm and nature's grace and hibernate and all those cool buttons I never used before.

I just respecced to boomkin, to try it. Love it! I like feral too, so I may have to level another druid. :)

[Griznah]

Yeah, I know about shadowpriests not being ultimate, but the manaregen (and grouphealing) they can provide is something that I feel is very good asset to the rest of the team, specially to the tanking pala.

Sorry... it's just too good to not post at any mention of a shadowpriest.
Haha, that is perfectly fine, I love that one myself :D
I got my shaman to 59 yesterday by grantlevelling
http://bildr.no/thumb/246440.jpeg ('http://bildr.no/view/246440')
and gave her some basic gear to get her HP above 3k, and now she's saving up some rested XP while I level my mages further (so I can grantlevel to another account).
Then it's outlands with my new team :D

[Depherios]

Right now I'm leveling a Paladin, Mage, Druid, Shaman and Hunter. -- I'm using a combination of macros, a "Start Boss" /castsequence macro to apply dots and start DPSing, (first 7.5 seconds, right now) then when that's hit it's end, I swap to a combination of (depending on the character) /castrandom /castsequence and just /cast macros to spam (all on one button, different for each character) And seperate "refresh" buttons for each character that I always forget to use except for the totems on the shaman.

Shadowpriests are great assets to a group, but their DPS having a priority instead of a rotation means that I, as a minmaxer, would rather not use a shadowpriest not doing it's optimum damage, and would rather have an elemental shaman or moonkin that can spam a single spell or simple rotation. lol -- Also, I already have a shadowpriest on that server (my main)

[Griznah]

I haven't just yet decided how to do this, but I could always just bind LBs to same as all the different skills of the shadowpriests, not sure how effective this will be tho.
I'll come back to this later. If all things fail, I'll just go with all 4 priests.

[ObesAU]

That muppets video is one of the funniest things I have seen ages

[Griznah]

I just wanted to spread the word that I'm now actually running with 4 classes/5specs and loving it :D
I tuned my macros, keybindings etc., and it's a blast! :D Ofc, you don't have as much micro, but it's very doable!