How Far Can You Go With 5Box PVP?

[Boxcarwilli]

I wanted to have started by now, but, delays delays. The good thing is I now have the $$ for the 5box PVP setup. However, I'm now deciding that I want to go the PVP route.

So, how far can one take PVP? Could 4 mages and a priest (undead on Magtheridon) finish first in the realm for 5v5 or even futher in the ladders? Battlegrounds seem like a non issue as Xzin already proved that. Anyways, if you have experience here with PVP 5box let me know your thoughts.

Thanks!

[Wilbur]

I'd say no. You can probably get a 1800+ rated team if you are *damn* good and able to target multiple people quickly and effectively. Balanced groups with decent PvP'ers will tear you to shreds though.

[boxer]

Battlegrounds (as in Xzin's case) yes, arena, no.

Getting to 2k with great players and a good make up is hard enough, that is an impossible feat for 1 person.

[Boxcarwilli]

I was figuring all this. Just wondered if anyone tried. BG's are easy to take advantage of.

[Ellay]

I am currently destroying the low end of Arena's at the moment with my 4 Shamans that are gearing up. I'd say with my current gear I could get 1800, and with maxed out arena gear probably 2k.

Although granted I'm only playing 4 and I have a healer running with me, 2k is possibly you just have to have the gear and right class combo to make it happen.

[boxer]

if anyone can get 2k by themselves, ill give them an eCookie. Cause I dont think its possible

[Boxcarwilli]

if anyone can get 2k by themselves, ill give them an eCookie. Cause I dont think its possible

Oh oh, looks like boxer mighy owe Ellay an eCookie. Whats your team name Ellay?

So Ellay, from your experience what would be a optimal class combo 5box for Arenas? Seems to a Priest and 4 mages or 4 locks or 4 shammys.

[boxer]

I am currently destroying the low end of Arena's at the moment with my 4 Shamans that are gearing up. I'd say with my current gear I could get 1800, and with maxed out arena gear probably 2k.

Although granted I'm only playing 4 and I have a healer running with me, 2k is possibly you just have to have the gear and right class combo to make it happen.

Guess not Boxcarwilli, but im sure Ellay is good at it.
I still stand with what I said about the difficulty: for 5 people micromanaging one character each, 2000+ rating is a very difficult task.

Not to mention hes not by himself.

[Boxcarwilli]

DOH!..............sorry

[Xzin]

I would find a 2000+ by a single 5 boxer to be quite, quite difficult. Impossible? No. But it would be quite hard to accomplish without the right gear, an arena team specifically designed for arenas (probably Shammys) and plenty of practice on how to deal with EVERY combination.

My arena experience remains limited but once you start to get to actual geared and premade teams... the difficulty goes up and the PQ (pally quotient) rapidly approaches 2. Which means they can out heal your AoE blasts (if you are 4 mages 1 priest) and then it is game over. It doesn't take mana to hack you to bits.

[crazycat]

id say perect arena team(for me) is 1 paladin, 1 shaman, 1 shadow priest, and a aflict lock/ destro

[Majestic_Clown]

if anyone can get 2k by themselves, ill give them an eCookie. Cause I dont think its possible

Sorry I have to disagree, you can get your whole arean gear for all 5 chars by losing :D

[Ticks]

if anyone can get 2k by themselves, ill give them an eCookie. Cause I dont think its possible

Sorry I have to disagree, you can get your whole arean gear for all 5 chars by losing :D

Not after 2.3 you won't.

[zanthor]

I would think that 4 mages + pally would be ubar for 5v5...

I'd spec POMPyro which even in a 2 Pally situation means you can instagib one guaranteed, the second isn't likely to survive long, and using focus macros for sheep I already have poly x2 down wth my 3 man team, I doubt it would be easy to keep track of four sheeps, but 2 is doable....

So pom pyro the pally # 1
Burn down # 2 and then take the focus fire down the line...

Frost nova, they trinket, frost nova again... you have 4, they dont.

Disclaimer: About 90% theorycraft as I'm NOT a huge pvp player, I'll learn a crapton when I get my team to 70th, I plan on 3v3 by myself, 5v5 with my girlfriend (priest) and another buddy (pally)... I hope to see the 2 pom pyro mages + 3 healers as an incredibly durable team.

[unit187]

they will fear, stun, heal/crossheal, interrupt your spells, dispel etc etc... your theory craft fails :P

[Xzin]

Also if they get a "lucky" all timers are up in the beginning grounding totem, cloak of shadows, pally bubble heal, etc - your first salvo is useless. Sure, you can play around this - drop a single instant spell first, don't target the rogue first, mass dispel, etc. Not to say that it is impossible but in a situation where you lose if you fail to beat them in the very first salvo AND the game now has plenty of ways to deal with said burst damage.... it doesn't stack up favorably against a 5v5 team. 2v2 might be possible to do very well at with the right team, the right metagame and the right practice/gear. 5v5s are, at the higher level, quite more difficult than might appear on the surface - especially with the higher life totals and new spells and abilities.

[Boxcarwilli]

.... it doesn't stack up favorably against a 5v5 team. 2v2 might be possible to do very well at with the right team, the right metagame and the right practice/gear. 5v5s are, at the higher level, quite more difficult than might appear on the surface - especially with the higher life totals and new spells and abilities.

I was thinking 2v2 would be much easier to manage in the arena's. A simple two box setup. However, the more and more I read lately about the next expansion the more I cringe. I dont know if I want to play again if they nerf you every year. It's as if Blizz cant think of any way of adding expansions other than increasing the level cap.

[boxer]

if anyone can get 2k by themselves, ill give them an eCookie. Cause I dont think its possible

Sorry I have to disagree, you can get your whole arean gear for all 5 chars by losing :D

Yeah, but when youre loosing, youre moving away from 2000...

[Ellay]

My main is Aelli, also play as Aellii / Aellei / Aellie.


To sum up how fun it is in the BG's multiboxing this was an awesome screenshot I took of a team that fought me and after 2 of their players instantly died from an NS/EM/CL combo, they sat there whining and gave up :)

http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/9683/sorrylolvo5.jpg

I've been having a lot of fun in the Arena's and it's such a great change from when you first hit 70 to now. I'm trying to fraps some of the action but it kills my FPS and I really need it in time critical fights.

My 2v2 is at 2248 rating at the moment, which really doesn't count because I have some friends helping me out :)

On the 5's I just made a brand new team and I think we are like 15-3. Just kind of busting through all the easy fights. I'm going to push this team as high in rating as possible. I'll let you guys know how it goes, but to all those theory crafting. It really goes out of the window once you hit the live action.