View Full Version : BRD or ST for levelling 45+
shaeman
08-15-2008, 04:40 AM
Tried stratholme boosting with my 70 hunter - I suck at it. The xp per hour I was netting was pitiful.
I'm ruling out scholomance as I dont have the key to the entrance. I'm also guessing it may be a bit nasty like stratholme. So I've set my sights lower for now.
My choice is between ST and BRD. I know there is a difference in level between the two, but wondered which people would recommend for boosting in.
I remember suggestions that you should only pull a couple of rooms then run out and reset for decent XP, but couldn't find the post no matter what search string I tried. (if someone finds the post please link it :) )
Does anyone have a feel for which would net the better XP for a 70 hunter, 3 shaman group?
I found it faster to do quests from 45 to 53 (did the kill quests only in tanaris and feralas) then to searing gorge and ran thru those.. then ran brd 2 times and voila i was 58 (the quest turn in from searing gorge were 22 to 28k ea turn in.... brd quests 33k to 45k per turn in...) Im actually leaning towards questing after getting out of sm than boosting. The tripled quest turn xp seems to be faster .. especially when you just toss a 70 dpser in the grp and mow thru the quests. Working on my 3rd raf grp atm (3 grps of 4) and the sm to 42ish and quest method seems the fastest to 60 to me (course Im old and senile too)
--- I run brd 2 times due to some of the quests needing 2 runs.... just a for instance.. atm my newest grp of shammies is sitting at 56 with 1 brd run completed... next brd run will take em to 58 and bc lands
shaeman
08-15-2008, 07:21 AM
I may follow your lead and try and quest level them.
I'm in tanaris currently and got the wastewanders quest at the moment (which isn't too bad - one of the guys has completed it, with the other two having partial). I had to log off as weird lag issues resulted in a wipe.
I'm in two minds whether to just quest them straight - or whether to follow them out of group on my hunter and let my pet help kill.
I'll definitley skip the gathering quests (the southshore pirate hats springs to mind).
valtrex
08-15-2008, 08:39 AM
Tried stratholme boosting with my 70 hunter - I suck at it. The xp per hour I was netting was pitiful.
I'm ruling out scholomance as I dont have the key to the entrance. I'm also guessing it may be a bit nasty like stratholme. So I've set my sights lower for now.
My choice is between ST and BRD. I know there is a difference in level between the two, but wondered which people would recommend for boosting in.
I remember suggestions that you should only pull a couple of rooms then run out and reset for decent XP, but couldn't find the post no matter what search string I tried. (if someone finds the post please link it :) )
Does anyone have a feel for which would net the better XP for a 70 hunter, 3 shaman group?
At 45 I took my guys into Scholo and pulled the first room of casters over and over with my lock. My paladin was unable to kill them in this century but the lock seems to do ok. I was getting about 10% of level each run. It pretty boring but easy.
At about 48 I went and knocked out feralas, hinterlands, and searing gorge quests. That got me to about 51ish. Dont pass on hinterlands and searing gorge. They have lot of kill quests and I could do all of them in each zone in about 2 hrs.
Right now I am trying to grab another couple levels in there because the availible quests are collection, red, or Im not high enough to grab them. On the upside, only 6 more levels till I can bail out for Outlands and get some real xp.
Drizzit
08-15-2008, 10:20 AM
i think that scholo is much easier then strat. I usually cleared the first room in less then 15 minutes with my rogue and reset, i got about 2 bars each time. I did the dead side of strat, like the frist 3 pulls (went there to get my pally mount), and almost died in all three of those pulls.
If you don't have a key a rogue can pick the lock or a lock can kill himself next to the door (life tap till you cannot anymore then use hellfire, make sure you take off your gear so you don't have to repair it) and rez on the other side.
Scholomance key is trivial to get as a 70, just a little running around after collecting the initial skeletal fragments (which drop well). Take 2 thorium bars and 15g with you to Tanaris/Un'goro when you hit that step.
Here's the quest start:
http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=5533
Scholomance was easier for me on my 70 affliction lock than Strat UD. Haven't been to live side yet, someone let me into the undead side while I had my pally in tow for his holy water (pally 60 mount quest).
shaeman
08-15-2008, 10:42 AM
I'm lucky - I have a 70 lock (currently specced demonology) that I could bring to open the door.
(he's on my veteran account so I can't bring him to the party as one of my shaman would miss out).
I've improved my little shaman's setup now so I should be able to provide a bit of extra dps to help the hunter take down any mobs - so may give this a try over the weekend for comparison.
Thanks for the quest start - I'll look it up when I can get access.
Drizzit
08-15-2008, 10:44 AM
I'm lucky - I have a 70 lock (currently specced demonology) that I could bring to open the door.
Yup there is a lever inside after you pass the door. When you get in there just park the lock there to continue to open the door.
Np, yeah totally have your shaman focus fire the target of your hunter. In between questing I would boost 3 or 4 of my shammies through ZF in their 40's (sometimes taking a family member as the 5th spot as looter) and I was happy how much faster I could kill the groups with seeding 3 instead of 4 and forcing a detonation with a 3 or 4 lightning bolts instead of drain life and just nuke any low-life runners with the shaman since their LB was shorter casting time than my SB.
HTeam
08-15-2008, 11:06 AM
I just finished up this boosting using a warrior.
SM 20-41
ZF 41-48
LBRS 48-55
SM is huge pulls. Cathedral is 4 pulls.
ZF is pulls of 2-3 groups at a time typically
LBRS is single group pulls. They come bunched in nice groups of 4-5, perfect for a warrior.
I think starting with LBRS at 45, you could get by the same way as my warrior, send in a pet and burn down each mob in turn. You would want to watch out for runners though, so hold an instant shot in reserve for when each of the casters tries to run.
At 55 I'm rotating one guy out, grabbing a healer and doing ramparts to 60...maybe even 62, so I can skip more collection quests.
My friend and I seem to be crazy, becausewe do all the quests, but we are not boxing, so its easy for us to do collections. We are running the quests as far as we can, and end up being way over level for the zone by the time we are done.
Thing is, a lot of the top quests, give the best exp, so its worth it to run all the way through. Last night, my druid friend, and myself as a paladin just finished STV and left there at level 48.
Headed straight to Searing Gorge, finished those 6 quests or so out of Thorium Point, and the "Caught!" quest on the East side of the zone. Finished "Caught!" line and the others, and had dinged 50 from that. Went to turn in the Thorium Point quests, and that instantly dinged me to 51.5.
Not sure where to go now. Might be Hinterlands, or Tanaris as I hear there is a lot of good quests there. Same with Ungoro Crater I've heard is really good.
Anyone have any suggestions where to go for a 51 Duo that has a lot of quests all packed in? STV was heaven, as the quests never seemed to stop. ;)
puppychow
08-15-2008, 02:38 PM
hinterlands has a lot of packed quests for horde, not as good for ally. WPL is good for ally, not so good for horde. Tanaris is more 42-48, at 51 you are a little high but could wrap up a few quick ones (ogres, thistle, etc). Ungoro has a lot of packed quests 51-55, and then Silithus can finish you off.
for scholo, one trick to get inside if you just have a pally - DI someone. I di'd one of my shamans, ran back as a ghost, and rez'd on the other side. Makes it easy :) I didn't find it great xp/hour wise, I just did scholo once to get everyone their peasant caller trinkets :) So far the best xp/hour I have found is the baron in strat, but since it takes nearly 2 hours to clear to him its not really for everyone - only those who are going to have a long play session. You also end up with no gold or items from 45-60 (in fact 200g+ repair bills), so the tradeoffs are huge.
I just finished grinding SM cath for a set of shields and hats, I think I'm done instance grinding for a bit. Flying to Tanaris as we speak, the quests are a bit more spread out, but easy at my level, then headed to Hinterlands. I think after SM, the instances are probably too rough to 3 man, so I'll probably quest from here on out. Too bad these are the crappy levels to quest . :(
Anyone have any suggestions where to go for a 51 Duo that has a lot of quests all packed in? STV was heaven, as the quests never seemed to stop. ;) At 51, I usually head to Felwood. Lotta little quests, but work up your Timbermaw rep, pointless now, but gives you access to Winterspring. Then I go to Un'goro, which you'll love, just keep your eyes peeled for the devilsaurs. Finishing up with a few quests in Winterspring, you'll be 58, abandon ALL your quests, and get thee to outland ASAP. I hate EPL/WPL with a passion, so I avoid them. Some say to stick around in Azeroth and save outland quests till later for more $$, but for me, I never do them all. There's more quests in outland than ever, and you'll have no problem hitting 70. Outland quests give relevant rep and great rewards.
kadaan
08-15-2008, 02:52 PM
Searing gorge is definitely nice, easy quests and even the collection ones aren't bad at all. My team hit 57 last night and I haven't touched BRD nor ST. I ran my team through UD Strath a bunch, enough to get my main exalted with AD from the scourgestones (was neutral when I started) and my team is now about 4k into revered. It took me about 35m per run as a 70 Feral Druid, and even though it's a one-in-a-million shot, Baron's mount would have been a HUGE plus for me :).
Also you get 8 blues per run, so if you have an enchanter there to DE you can make a decent amount of gold from AH'ing them (~15g each on my server.) Also the belt of valor only drops from aboms there, and gauntlets from rammstein. I sold 7 or 8 belts for 30g per, and three gauntlets so far for 60g per.
just ran brd the second time... dinged lvl 59 and a half 17 hrs 11 mins.. not sure if that's good or not compared to others, but im not really sweating the speed too much. Gotta say Im really enjoying the raf thingy.
dquill
08-15-2008, 04:26 PM
I think it depends on if leveling is all you are doing. If you are planning on disenchanting the boss blues, then strat/scholo make a ton more sense. I do brd from 44-50 or so, then strat from 50-58/60. I just hit 60 in over 20 hours, but I lost a couple hours.
If it's just leveling, BRD is still not as good as strat. with the xp bonus, I was getting 130,000+- in BRD at 50, and more like 170,000 in strat. I level using mage aoe, and a healer or two.
I think it depends on if leveling is all you are doing. If you are planning on disenchanting the boss blues, then strat/scholo make a ton more sense. I do brd from 44-50 or so, then strat from 50-58/60. I just hit 60 in over 20 hours, but I lost a couple hours.
If it's just leveling, BRD is still not as good as strat. with the xp bonus, I was getting 130,000+- in BRD at 50, and more like 170,000 in strat. I level using mage aoe, and a healer or two.
Yeh I agree, if youre going to boost, strat makes the most sense (I use a pally to boost that way). Just with the raf quest xp thing, it seems to be faster to forgo the boosting and just power quest instead. I mean using a 70 (or 2 70s ) in grp with the lowbies just to quickly get the quests done (yes I know it kills the xp per kill but the triple xp quest turn in more than makes up for it due to the speed).
I've got all the BRD quests lined up and ready to go, I'm kind of curious how much exp this is going to give when I turn them all in. ;)
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