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Shuri
08-14-2008, 09:10 AM
I'm using my freebie levels from my clones to level a prot pally. As of now it's level 39 and has only killed one mob and completed no quests :D

Anyway, when this guy hits 59 or so I'm going to spec him prot and actually try him out. My question is what's a good set of BOE tankadin gear I can buy off the AH? And what's an OK spec? I was going to ask this on the wow pally forums, but I didn't want to start a ZOMG NRUF RAF!!11!one!! flame war.

Thanks

Sarduci
08-14-2008, 09:18 AM
Of the Champion and of the Sorcerer gear with a good shield and a spike on it. Quiet easy stuff to get. Add in the striaght of Stamina gear if you need some extra life. Install tank points first to see what kind of effective life you have by hovering over them before you buy them.

Naysayer
08-14-2008, 09:29 AM
Of the Champion and with a good shield and a spike on it. Quiet easy stuff to get.

emgee
08-14-2008, 09:42 AM
http://maintankadin.failsafedesign.com/

that site will satisfy all your tankadin needs :)

Sanctume
08-14-2008, 09:51 AM
Any items with Defense, Stamina, & Spell Damage.

Most of your threat will come from Holy Shield and SoR/JoR.

Shuri
08-14-2008, 09:51 AM
Thank you, you are scholars and gentlemen.

/bow

Drizzit
08-14-2008, 09:57 AM
I think the magic number for tanking with a pally is 200 spell damage. I have a little over 200 and the mobs don't come off of me. I cast sal on my shams, pull with shield, con + shield once and i don't lose agro (then again i also have iron shield spike on and a shield that does poison damage to them so that helps too)... Tanking is so easy, when i look at my tank half the time she is not even swinging her mace... lol.

Sanctume
08-14-2008, 10:03 AM
I think the magic number for tanking with a pally is 200 spell damage. I have a little over 200 and the mobs don't come off of me. I cast sal on my shams, pull with shield, con + shield once and i don't lose agro (then again i also have iron shield spike on and a shield that does poison damage to them so that helps too)... Tanking is so easy, when i look at my tank half the time she is not even swinging her mace... lol.The major chunk of that spell damage comes from the weapon, and it's rare to have a +defense + spell damage in the 60s.
I remember when I hit Outlands, my tanking weapon was still a level 30-40 Assassin Blade with Fiery Enchant.
My first spell damage upgrade was a sword drop from Ramparts.
And that sword did not get replaced until I got faction from Keepers of Time.

Nowadays, by 70 you can buy a spell damage blue weapon off the AH, or get S2 Gavel, or from SSO.

Shuri
08-14-2008, 10:09 AM
The major chunk of that spell damage comes from the weapon, and it's rare to have a +defense + spell damage in the 60s.
I remember when I hit Outlands, my tanking weapon was still a level 30-40 Assassin Blade with Fiery Enchant.
My first spell damage upgrade was a sword drop from Ramparts.
And that sword did not get replaced until I got faction from Keepers of Time.

Nowadays, by 70 you can buy a spell damage blue weapon off the AH, or get S2 Gavel, or from SSO.OK, so if I'm understanding this right you wear warrior tanking plate and use a caster weapon? So the dps on it seems to be irrelevant, but does the speed matter?

Drizzit
08-14-2008, 10:16 AM
OK, so if I'm understanding this right you wear warrior tanking plate and use a caster weapon? So the dps on it seems to be irrelevant, but does the speed matter?

ok, someone correct me if i get this wrong:
(I am not trying to be an ass here so don't get me wrong)

You got 3 tanks druid, warrior, and pally.
- Druid creates threat by dpsing the mobs. There bear form has abilities that generate high damage which keeps the mobs on the druid.
- Warrior creates threat by being in "tank" mod. Using skill that generate threat.
- Pally create threat by standing there (well sort of true), they generate threat by blocking hits.

So druid is damage, warrior is skills, and pally is being hit. I think that the way they are making DK is also by damage.

edit:
To increase threat for a pally is to increase there spell+. You don't want to go crazy on this and have 1k spell+, 200 seems to be a good number (i think i got this from Fur). Cause every time the pally blocks the mobs take holly damage.

ChaoticMonk
08-14-2008, 10:26 AM
OK, so if I'm understanding this right you wear warrior tanking plate and use a caster weapon? So the dps on it seems to be irrelevant, but does the speed matter?
Yup, tanking plate + caster weapon. You'd want a faster weapon so that any regen judgement you have on the mob will proc more often (seal of wisdom and light have a chance to give back mana and health respectivly when you hit the mob). In most cases, caster weapons are always below 2.00sec attack speed so aslong as you get a caster weapon you'd be good to go (daggers excluded).


Cause every time the pally is hit the mobs take holly damage.
I could be wrong but I don't think +spell dmg changes how much damage Retribution Aura does.

Memn
08-14-2008, 10:30 AM
Basically you itemize similarly to a warrior, but you drop strength for spell damage. There aren't many randomly enchanted paladin tank items, but those that exist are "of the knight", and they are all blue's that require L66-69 so go with "of the Champion" for now. At L59 you don't need to worry about spell damage so much, just get the highest dps 1 hander you can with a fast weapon speed. How much Spell Damage you need is dependant on the content you are up against, and the level of DPS you are going with.

My estimate:

T4 Content: @200 spell damage
T5 Content: @325 +dam
T6 Content: @400 +dam

Outlaw73
08-14-2008, 07:31 PM
OK, so if I'm understanding this right you wear warrior tanking plate and use a caster weapon? So the dps on it seems to be irrelevant, but does the speed matter?
Yup, tanking plate + caster weapon. You'd want a faster weapon so that any regen judgement you have on the mob will proc more often (seal of wisdom and light have a chance to give back mana and health respectivly when you hit the mob). In most cases, caster weapons are always below 2.00sec attack speed so aslong as you get a caster weapon you'd be good to go (daggers excluded).


Cause every time the pally is hit the mobs take holly damage.
I could be wrong but I don't think +spell dmg changes how much damage Retribution Aura does.Probably meant block, in which case you are getting about 5% of your spell damage per block in reflected damage according to WowWiki: http://www.wowwiki.com/Holy_Shield

Stabface
08-14-2008, 07:59 PM
Here ya go:

http://www.wowhead.com/?items=4.4&filter=qu=2:3:4;minle=81;maxrl=61;cr=3;crs=1;crv=0 #0+3+1

Look for this stuff with tank-style stats.

Drizzit
08-15-2008, 08:58 AM
Probably meant block,

good catch... going to change post