Tripple XP is a joke

[Ironstone]

Ok so the title might get some scrutiny but here's my xplaination as to why tripple xp is a joke. Rested XP is not awarded if your getting your so called tripple xp first and foremost. Second, if i kill a mob (both chars mage , lock lvl 21) lvl 22 on my own not grouped with my mage I get around 150ish xp per kill. rested around 300. grouped with my recruit a friend mage I get the tripple xp and total xp gained from killing the same mob is around a 150ish. Wheres the group XP when looking closer it says you killed w/e xp gained 150 (100 XP from recruit a friend). So you get the same XP as if you were on your own without the rested bonus. Quest turn in grants tripple which is nice but i normally play as rested and i think you end up losing xp in the long run when looking at rested xp from mob kills over quest turn ins.

[mlwhitt]

Not a joke to most of us. When grouped you should be killing nearly twice as fast. People are complaining enough about 300% XP, can you imagine if it did stack with Rest at 500%?

Honestly it is just right if you ask me. Same as having 1.5x rest XP even if you level none stop. Then to top it off by the time you get to 60 you will have most likely 1 1/2 bars of rested XP from the get go.

[Dominian]

Think of us who bought the accounts 2 weeks before the RAF buff and stop complaining!

[zanthor]

I started 7 days ago, I've got 4 shamans @ 40th without any help from my 70...(no help with xp, but gold for skills/gear). I'm not twinked, I geared up once @ 20th and once again last night when I hit 40th... I haven't had to do crappy quests, or stuff I don't want to, I just cherry pick the fun and easy quests and level about 1x per hour.

[shockula]

I am loving the triple xp so far. I have 3 characters that are in their 50s now. 2 that are leveling together with a third getting levels granted. I boosted my toons up until level 45 though, that may be why my experience has been a bit different.

[Lyonheart]

I started 7 days ago, I've got 4 shamans @ 40th without any help from my 70...(no help with xp, but gold for skills/gear). I'm not twinked, I geared up once @ 20th and once again last night when I hit 40th... I haven't had to do crappy quests, or stuff I don't want to, I just cherry pick the fun and easy quests and level about 1x per hour.

Yes .. not having to do collection quests rule. I have done a few easier CQs but mostly just zoom through kill quests. I was 41 when I logged my new team in yesterday. I ran all over the place getting the FPs from Theramor>.tan>.feralis and I was 45 when i logged out a few hours later. Its super fast when you focus on quests. ( yes i boosted from 20-40 in sm ) But its still super fast when questing.

[Stabface]

Ok so the title might get some scrutiny but here's my xplaination as to why tripple xp is a joke. Rested XP is not awarded if your getting your so called tripple xp first and foremost. Second, if i kill a mob (both chars mage , lock lvl 21) lvl 22 on my own not grouped with my mage I get around 150ish xp per kill. rested around 300. grouped with my recruit a friend mage I get the tripple xp and total xp gained from killing the same mob is around a 150ish. Wheres the group XP when looking closer it says you killed w/e xp gained 150 (100 XP from recruit a friend). So you get the same XP as if you were on your own without the rested bonus. Quest turn in grants tripple which is nice but i normally play as rested and i think you end up losing xp in the long run when looking at rested xp from mob kills over quest turn ins.

I'll explain how XP works.
Killing an even con monster grants level*5 + 45 XP in the old world, or level*5 + 235 in Outlands. Rest bonus doubles that XP, and Recruit a Friend triples it, however these 2 do not stack. In a group, XP is divided, however there is a group bonus for 3 (x1.166) 4 (x1.3) and 5 (x1.4) person groups. The math becomes much more complex when mob and player levels are not the same, so I'll leave it at this for now.

Solo L22 killing an even con mob: 22*5+45 = 155 XP base, 310 XP rested.
Two grouped L22's killing an even con mob: (22*5+45) / 2 = 77.5 XP base, 155 rested, 232 XP recruit-a-friend.
Five groupled L22's killing an even con mob: (22*5+45) * 1.4 / 5 = 43.4 XP base, 86.8 rested, 130.2 recruit-a-friend.

So yes the XP per kill per character does go down, but not only are you earning this XP across multiple characters in parallel, a group of 2 should more than make up for it on a per-character basis simply by killing things faster.

Furthermore, the recruit-a-friend bonus does not expire until L60, whereas rest XP often runs out very quickly.

[Sarduci]

Quest XP x 3? Uh, I think that's the real point people miss sometimes. Kill 15 boars, get 30,000xp. Kill some random named mob, get 45,000xp.

[Stabface]

Correct, Sarduci. Rest XP does not affect quests but RAF bonus does... that's the real money if you're not boosting.

[TheBigBB]

And the fact that you can keep any rest XP you gain. You'll have full rest by 60 on all characters. If you go to each zone and do all the kill quests available, you'll level at an INSANE rate. Triple experience never has to be earned by logging out, either. It's not a joke at all. The biggest joke is skipping so many zones and quests because they went grey before you even got there.

OP, please think a little harder before you post such things!

[Stabface]

Actually, it's not quite true, you keep any rest XP you gain but you won't have full rest by 60 unless you level pretty slowly. I only have around half a level accrued on the toons I boosted to L55... simply because the rest XP I accrued was back in the 20's or 40's, even a max 1.5 levels rest XP at 20 will be very little at 60 for example. Thats fine though - they can rest at 60th while I boost the next group up, then I'll alternate groups through Outlands to stay in rest XP always.

[Naysayer]

Think of us who bought the accounts 2 weeks before the RAF buff and stop complaining!I'm so bummed. People with RAF are going to outlands and I'm getting burned out at SM library...

I'm so tempted to go out and buy two new copies.

[moji]

Think of us who bought the accounts 2 weeks before the RAF buff and stop complaining!I'm so bummed. People with RAF are going to outlands and I'm getting burned out at SM library...

I'm so tempted to go out and buy two new copies.No kidding. I've been hitting SM cath, because it's something my 3 shaman can handle, little better xp than just questing, but damn boring. 1-2 more levels though and I'll try my hand at ulda or ZF, or might just go questing again. did 3 clears last night, then just switched to my main and pvp'd because I was bored. I need to either get focused on leveling or just give it a long break.

[Ironstone]

Not a joke to most of us. When grouped you should be killing nearly twice as fast. People are complaining enough about 300% XP, can you imagine if it did stack with Rest at 500%?

Honestly it is just right if you ask me. Same as having 1.5x rest XP even if you level none stop. Then to top it off by the time you get to 60 you will have most likely 1 1/2 bars of rested XP from the get go


Im just saying it seems as if your not really getting tripple xp since you get the same amount as if u were not grouped. Id like to know how much xp your getting when group with someone not on a recruit a friend account. From my math 2 lvl 21 characters grouped without tripple xp should only be getting 50 XP per kill then and that doesnt seem right.

[Stabface]

I gave you the formulas already...
two L21 characters in a group, killing a L21 mob:

(21 * 5 + 45) / 2 = 75 XP each. Rested would be 150, and recruit-a-friend 225 XP each.

[Coltimar]

Think of us who bought the accounts 2 weeks before the RAF buff and stop complaining!I'm so bummed. People with RAF are going to outlands and I'm getting burned out at SM library...

I'm so tempted to go out and buy two new copies.I am with ya'. I logged on Monday morning and I was level 19. I saw that a dual boxer I met the night before was 21. Five hours later I am logging off at level 21 and he is level 30. :(

[Zub]

got to love the questx3 xp. done ungoro yesterday, got 48->52 just killing doing the kill quests and discovering the pylons. 22.5k xp a pop is godly

[zanir]

Not a joke to most of us. When grouped you should be killing nearly twice as fast. People are complaining enough about 300% XP, can you imagine if it did stack with Rest at 500%?

Honestly it is just right if you ask me. Same as having 1.5x rest XP even if you level none stop. Then to top it off by the time you get to 60 you will have most likely 1 1/2 bars of rested XP from the get go


Im just saying it seems as if your not really getting tripple xp since you get the same amount as if u were not grouped. Id like to know how much xp your getting when group with someone not on a recruit a friend account. From my math 2 lvl 21 characters grouped without tripple xp should only be getting 50 XP per kill then and that doesnt seem right.You're also forgetting to take into account the sheer ease and speed of killing mobs/questing when you're three-grouped. Even elite quests are much quicker.

Also, for some reason, the triple XP bonus is awarding full-xp for the quests, even if they're much lower-level than you. The other night, I completed a level 10 quest ('https://proust.washout.net/download/files/q9528.html') at level 15. Thott reports that quest as being worth 85 - 850xp. Even though it was green for me, I got the full 850, tripled to 2550.

[Akoko]

The main thing about triple XP is simply the quest XP rewards. Killing monsters has always been trival for multiboxers. I believe i got 17 thousand experience for handing in the Scarlet Monastery final quest?

But I haven't had to do more than 4-6 quests per level for the most part.

[Xealous]

Five groupled L22's killing an even con mob: (22*5+45) * 1.4 / 5 = 43.4 XP base, 86.8 rested, 130.2 recruit-a-friend.Does this formula include the group bonus too? - I'm at work so can't check but I'm sure with my 5 boxing RAF accounts I was getting a group bonus too :) (thanks for the formula tho).

Either way RAF rocks 5x 59 (pally, 3x mages, druid) at the moment, I ain't complaining ... planning my second group already...(priests and locks ~ purple power shadow team!)

/ponders how many groups could be done in the 90 days 8o

[Morx]

19650exp for the STV book turn in at level 45.

omg 8o

[Xealous]

^ oh that reminds me Morx... and the rest:

I think i levelled about 3~4 levels by doing an Uldaman run, and most of the quests (left out the big collection ones) - dont miss doing the Platinum Disc quest chain either! OMG ding ding ding!!

If you're unsure about Uldama - good guide here: Jame's Uldaman guide ('http://www.wow-pro.com/instance_guides/jame%2526%2523039%3Bs_uldaman_instance_guide')

X

[Stabface]

Five groupled L22's killing an even con mob: (22*5+45) * 1.4 / 5 = 43.4 XP base, 86.8 rested, 130.2 recruit-a-friend.Does this formula include the group bonus too? - I'm at work so can't check but I'm sure with my 5 boxing RAF accounts I was getting a group bonus too :) (thanks for the formula tho).

Either way RAF rocks 5x 59 (pally, 3x mages, druid) at the moment, I ain't complaining ... planning my second group already...(priests and locks ~ purple power shadow team!)

/ponders how many groups could be done in the 90 days 8o


Group XP is simply a multiplier for 3+ person groups, which I already mentioned: 3 = x1.166, 4 = x1.3) and 5 = x1.4
I am actually not 100% sure off the top of my head how the group multiplier works along with rest / RAF bonus.
If we kill a mob worth 100 XP to a solo player, each character in a 5 man would get 140/5 = 28 XP. Is that then 56 XP with rest and 84 XP with RAF ?
Or do they work separately on the base 20 XP pre-group: 20 base, +8 group, +20 rested = 48 XP... 20 base, +8 group, +40 RAF = 68 XP? I believe it is the former (56 or 84 XP) but it would be easy to test.

[Naysayer]

got to love the questx3 xp. done ungoro yesterday, got 48->52 just killing doing the kill quests and discovering the pylons. 22.5k xp a pop is godly :cursing:

[Gigatron]

Yup, getting 35k xp per quest is a joke. Getting my new 5 man team to 60 in 2 days played is no joke.

[JoeWunsch]

Think of us who bought the accounts 2 weeks before the RAF buff and stop complaining!I'm so bummed. People with RAF are going to outlands and I'm getting burned out at SM library...

I'm so tempted to go out and buy two new copies.Thats what I did last friday, I bought 4 new accounts.

I had a group of 34 locks on my old accounts. Starting friday at midnight to last night I got a new group of locks to 30, a group of mages to 34, shamans to 16 and hunters to 19.

It is more than worth it.

[Dooz]

Think of us who bought the accounts 2 weeks before the RAF buff

<--------- two days before

[Rowdysattva]

I just want to chime in and say it is more than worth it and it is pretty funny how fast you level... and in that sense it is a joke.

As already stated the x3 quest experience is the big win. The mob bonus is just a nice garnish on top. Being able to give away 1/2 of the levels you gain to other lower level toons is the gift that keeps on giving.

This whole RAF thing is just win though and though.

Awesome RAF is awesome.

END OF LINE

:D

[accretion]

I leveled a trio of Shamans to 44 a couple months back. With RAF, I'm positive I will do 1-60 faster on 5 toons than 44-60 on three. It basically invalidates every sub-50 alt I have. It's great to get the bonus, but a little sad at the same time.

[Knytestorme]

The other thing people aren't taking into account in xp calculations is the gifted levels.

Yes you might be getting a little less xp per kill in the group even with the 3x xp but if you add in the value of the 30 levels per new 60 you can gift then the true value of the RAF terms is likely to be 10-15x xp bonus.

Think of it this way, a good played time from 1-60 solo is ~4 days....now if we add one RAF in to the mix we can 2-box 2 new characters from 1-60 in ~2 days played, or 48 hours total = 8 days @ 6 hours a day.

If we just churn out new chars for the 90 days linked we'd end up with 10 chars on the second account and the ability to gift a total of 300 levels to any characters on our main account, or 5 characters from 1-60 instantly and THAT is the real xp bonus to the RAF program now.

[Jaese]

I hate all you RAFers. :( ;( :cursing:

/rage
/jealousy

Sigh...
5x Battlechest = $150

Shamans would only benefit 12 levels so transfering would be meaningless, which would leave me with 10 accounts lol. :pinch: Gotta start 10-boxing somewhere (I'd need atleast a second computer though).

/me starts saving his pennies.

[BobGnarly]

I hate all you RAFers. :( ;( :cursing:

/rage
/jealousy

Sigh...
5x Battlechest = $150

Shamans would only benefit 12 levels so transfering would be meaningless, which would leave me with 10 accounts lol. :pinch: Gotta start 10-boxing somewhere (I'd need atleast a second computer though).

/me starts saving his pennies.You don't need 5 new accounts, just 3. You will RAF from the other 2.

To those of you who are contemplating getting the accounts, do it. I bought 3 new onces, recruited them, upgrades them (with the battlechest i bought), and transfered my 3 shaman over in about 5 hrs total time. The results are unbelievable. 30k quest turn-ins. Got 4 levels in about 2.5. Already up to 54.

It's a little money, yeah, but it's waaaaaay worth it, especially because after I'm done I'm going to have a 60 rogue too! :)

[Naysayer]

Think of us who bought the accounts 2 weeks before the RAF buff and stop complaining!I'm so bummed. People with RAF are going to outlands and I'm getting burned out at SM library...

I'm so tempted to go out and buy two new copies.Thats what I did last friday, I bought 4 new accounts.

I had a group of 34 locks on my old accounts. Starting friday at midnight to last night I got a new group of locks to 30, a group of mages to 34, shamans to 16 and hunters to 19.

It is more than worth it. :cursing: :cursing: :cursing: :cursing: :cursing: :cursing: :cursing: :cursing: :cursing: :cursing: :cursing: :cursing: :cursing: :cursing: :cursing: :cursing: :cursing: :cursing: :cursing: :cursing: :cursing: :cursing: :cursing:
I guess I'm going shopping in the morning. Sonovabiscuit!

At least now I can be happy that I bought WoW's and BC's seperately and not battlechests. I haven't upgraded the BC's yet so I just need a couple copies of regular WoW for 19$ and I'm good to go RAFing.

[Zub]

Think of us who bought the accounts 2 weeks before the RAF buff and stop complaining!I'm so bummed. People with RAF are going to outlands and I'm getting burned out at SM library...

I'm so tempted to go out and buy two new copies.Thats what I did last friday, I bought 4 new accounts.

I had a group of 34 locks on my old accounts. Starting friday at midnight to last night I got a new group of locks to 30, a group of mages to 34, shamans to 16 and hunters to 19.

It is more than worth it. :cursing: :cursing: :cursing: :cursing: :cursing: :cursing: :cursing: :cursing: :cursing: :cursing: :cursing: :cursing: :cursing: :cursing: :cursing: :cursing: :cursing: :cursing: :cursing: :cursing: :cursing: :cursing: :cursing:
I guess I'm going shopping in the morning. Sonovabiscuit!

At least now I can be happy that I bought WoW's and BC's seperately and not battlechests. I haven't upgraded the BC's yet so I just need a few copies of regular WoW for 19$ and I'm good to go RAFing.

shopping? i did it all online.

[Naysayer]

:cursing: :cursing: :cursing: :cursing: :cursing: :cursing: :cursing: :cursing: :cursing: :cursing: :cursing: :cursing: :cursing: :cursing: :cursing: :cursing: :cursing: :cursing: :cursing: :cursing: :cursing: :cursing: :cursing:
I guess I'm going shopping in the morning. Sonovabiscuit!

At least now I can be happy that I bought WoW's and BC's seperately and not battlechests. I haven't upgraded the BC's yet so I just need a few copies of regular WoW for 19$ and I'm good to go RAFing.

shopping? i did it all online.I'd rather have the boxes. :( I'm old school.

[Naylix]

battlechests contain a vanilla wow dvd, with vanilla-key, and a BC dvd with a BC-key (plus a few books with maps and other useless stuff, considering the availability of such information from addons ingame)

But yeh, I reckon most people would do an upgrade to BC right away - since you're allready logged on to acc-management. Besides, we know we love the blue squids...

[mitoshy]

Also, for some reason, the triple XP bonus is awarding full-xp for the quests, even if they're much lower-level than you. The other night, I completed a level 10 quest ('https://proust.washout.net/download/files/q9528.html') at level 15. Thott reports that quest as being worth 85 - 850xp. Even though it was green for me, I got the full 850, tripled to 2550.That's nothing new. For as long as I can remember, you were always awarded the full XP for turning in a quest as long as it was green or above. More then likely that 85xp thottbot refers to for that particular quest is when its grey.

[johny_mnemonic]

I would like to use this feature too for upgrading from 3 to 5 but unfortunetaly, I dont live in a country eligible for RAF.

From the official RAF FAQ:

Are all players eligible to use the "Recruit A Friend" service?
Players with a World of Warcraft account from the following countries are able to use the "Recruit A Friend" service: Austria, Finland, France, Germany, Italy, the Netherlands, UK, Norway, Sweden, Greece, Ireland, Belgium and Spain. Players from outside of these countries; players with trial accounts, or with full accounts with five referrals from the "Recruit A Friend" service currently pending, are ineligible.
:cursing: :cursing: :cursing: Blizzard :cursing: :cursing: :cursing:

So I wish you all who can use the RAF to enjoy it to its fullest.

[Knapenburger]

500xp a kill in SM Lib at level 33...at lvl 28 being boosted by a lvl 70 in SM Cath without RAF, 120xp a kill only..

[Freddman]

500xp a kill in SM Lib at level 33...at lvl 28 being boosted by a lvl 70 in SM Cath without RAF, 120xp a kill only..
I was boosting my lvl 30 shaman team yesterday, and when i looked at my shamans i saw that they where getting 400exp per kill, that's nice. But i only got a lvl 65 enhancement shaman to boost with, so im only getting about 100-110k/h, but it's better then no RAF and no boost :)

[Sloefke]

For me it sue aint a joke.

In 2 days (not 2 days played) I lvld a 5gr lock and shamy from 0-33.

Deleted 2 of my accounts for it and bought 3 new accounts. 2 veteran and 3 'friends'

I'm loving it :-)

[HPAVC]

I got three more accounts to finally get 10, the RAF is so insanely badass. Yes its basically solo xp rate for kills. Its truly a danger of getting quests at orange difficulty, killing mobs/grinding out the quests, and handing them in gray if you are a 'do the whole quest log then hand in' mind set. The
Jintha'Alor quests were so insane.

The only thing I regret is that the non-instance trash elites no longer exist, that xp would be been awesome as not much stands up to three boar charges/arcane shot/multi-shots.

An Onyxia kill by Sunday I hope ... Jailbreak itself should be a level easily.

[zanthor]

Another thing that I've realized, you get 300% honor as well, and unless I'm misinformed the honor cap is 75K no matter your level... I plan @ 59 to grind 75K honor as long as the Q's are OK. This way when I ding 70 I've got enough honor and just need a few tokens to round out the gear I need to get started in PVP.

[Freddman]

Another thing that I've realized, you get 300% honor as well, and unless I'm misinformed the honor cap is 75K no matter your level... I plan @ 59 to grind 75K honor as long as the Q's are OK. This way when I ding 70 I've got enough honor and just need a few tokens to round out the gear I need to get started in PVP.
I thought Blizz removed the 3x Honor?

[Mscolors]

Quadboxed four shamans to 60 in 1 day 5 hours /played. Triple xp ftw!

http://disturbia.someserver.net/60s.jpg (http://disturbia.someserver.net/60.jpg)

[Naysayer]

Quadboxed four shamans to 60 in 1 day 5 hours /played. Triple xp ftw!

http://disturbia.someserver.net/60s.jpg ('http://disturbia.someserver.net/60.jpg')DIAF!!!!



:(

[Dominian]

im strongly considering to buy 3 new boxes of wow and do RAF.. My shamans is pretty much stuck at 41 and i assume i could do a warlock team in the same time! ARG

Had some major issues to buy online thought thanks to the crappy blizzard pages :(

[Korruptor]

I've read so many threads on RAF but I've gotten a bit confused on one point.

If I were to get a RAF account and transfer a lvl 70 character to the RAF account, will that invalidate the RAF bonus exp for any alts created on that new RAF account?

I ask this because if I go with 3 RAF accounts they would replace 3 old accounts so I would transfer my shaman off them to the new RAF accounts (which would be linked to 2 Vet accounts) but I want to make sure that transfering a lvl60+ toon would not kill the bonus exp for that new account for all new alts thus invalidating the whole purpose.

Thanks in advance for any clarification.

[Shuri]

got to love the questx3 xp. done ungoro yesterday, got 48->52 just killing doing the kill quests and discovering the pylons. 22.5k xp a pop is godlyIndeed, the triple quest XP is very nice. I turned in the quest for SM to kill all the bosses in every wing and got over 20k for doing so, it was beyond awesome :thumbsup:

[Ironstone]

ok so i actually sat down last night and started to quest (I suck at questing btw) i went from 21 to 25 in about 3 hours. I think I was being a little to rash as after turning in only 3 quests I had gotten 14 bars from the quest xp alone. I retract my previous statement that tripple xp is a joke, tripple xp is retarded (in a good way).

One other question I had though with the RAF Grant a Level and the mount. Ive prepaid for 3 months with my credit card, how long does it take to get the level granting and the mount does anyone know?

[Jaws5]

once they have billed you rest comes into play

game cards are instant

credit cards wait unitl 10 + 30 days are used

:)

[Ironstone]

once they have billed you rest comes into play

game cards are instant

credit cards wait unitl 10 + 30 days are used

:)Damn I new i should have used a game card oh well. Also wanted to get some insight on how long it should take multi boxing with 2 chars with RAF to hit 60 want to see if I'm on par with most others.

[Jaese]

I hate all you RAFers. :( ;( :cursing:

/rage
/jealousy

Sigh...
5x Battlechest = $150

Shamans would only benefit 12 levels so transfering would be meaningless, which would leave me with 10 accounts lol. :pinch: Gotta start 10-boxing somewhere (I'd need atleast a second computer though).

/me starts saving his pennies.You don't need 5 new accounts, just 3. You will RAF from the other 2.

To those of you who are contemplating getting the accounts, do it. I bought 3 new onces, recruited them, upgrades them (with the battlechest i bought), and transfered my 3 shaman over in about 5 hrs total time. The results are unbelievable. 30k quest turn-ins. Got 4 levels in about 2.5. Already up to 54.

It's a little money, yeah, but it's waaaaaay worth it, especially because after I'm done I'm going to have a 60 rogue too! :)
That makes a lot of sense. Wasn't thinking outside the box. ;)

[BobGnarly]

I've read so many threads on RAF but I've gotten a bit confused on one point.

If I were to get a RAF account and transfer a lvl 70 character to the RAF account, will that invalidate the RAF bonus exp for any alts created on that new RAF account?

I ask this because if I go with 3 RAF accounts they would replace 3 old accounts so I would transfer my shaman off them to the new RAF accounts (which would be linked to 2 Vet accounts) but I want to make sure that transfering a lvl60+ toon would not kill the bonus exp for that new account for all new alts thus invalidating the whole purpose.

Thanks in advance for any clarification.I can't give you 100% certainty, but I'd go like 95% or so. :)

I created new accounts to transfer 3 of my existing shaman onto. While I was waiting for the account upgrade/character transfer/etc to complete, I created a new group of mages and run them up. After the transfer completed, those existing chars are still getting the RAF.

So, I'd done just what you asked with level 50 chars and it still works np.

[xxecho]

I have to agree with ppl creating new accounts. I only had 1 main 5boxing set, so started 3 new accounts. Now i'm going for 2 more sets on main server and 3 new sets on a friends server. Could not have done that before. Gimme my 5hunters :P

Some guildies got into the action as well. We spent a day racing until it became too distracting on guild chat. Level 33 in 12.5 hours, 5boxing. The guildies were 2boxing with a T5/6 powerlvling them. They were even faster until gnomer got too low for them, so they should have switched to quests early 30's maybe..

Feels like a breath of fresh air. Can run alternative sets to try different setups. Prior to this new RAF that was an onerous task. NOw you can run multiple sets to 60, let rested xp build up and walk on to 70...

One trick when I was playing around, that I should have used better is grant a level. If you start a new set, say 2 veterans and 3 friends, they will all be about the same lvl. At the end of lvl 58, hand in quests on the FRIENDS first and level up. Then GRANT A LEVEL to the veterans. This will take them from the end of 58 to the end of 59!!!! Then they can hand in and ding 60. Enjoy. If you are like me and the veterans are the tank and healer, the extra level up is quite useful.

[Naysayer]

One trick when I was playing around, that I should have used better is grant a level. If you start a new set, say 2 veterans and 3 friends, they will all be about the same lvl. At the end of lvl 58, hand in quests on the FRIENDS first and level up. Then GRANT A LEVEL to the veterans. This will take them from the end of 58 to the end of 59!!!! Then they can hand in and ding 60. Enjoy. If you are like me and the veterans are the tank and healer, the extra level up is quite useful.Wow, seriously that's a great tip. Might be best to pump them up to 20 as well, before giving them levels. 1-20 only took me a couple hours today. Definitely worth saving 20 free levels.