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sqeaky4100
08-06-2008, 11:03 PM
I'm going to be 5-boxing... and my OLD 8800 can't keep up anymore.

I've narrowed it down between these 2 cards... so which one will handle 5-boxing the best?


Radeon HD 4870-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814129113

or

EVGA GeForce GTX 260 FTW Edition ( theres OC'd edition... Super OC'd edition... and then highest of them all is FTW edition )-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130374


Some notes:

- I'm using 2 monitors and would love it to be simple to manage them.
- Please recommend ANYTHING else that you have had experience with and love.
- Reason I chose the FTW edition as a candidate is I don't want to OC myself.
- My current 8800gts CAN get about 30 frames with 5 WoWs, but I want more... incase anyone had a comment about that

Naysayer
08-07-2008, 02:18 AM
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-4870,1964.html

Tomshardware is an extremely respected PC hardware technology review website. They say Radeon HD 4870.

wowphreak
08-07-2008, 02:41 AM
I really dont think yeh will see a much of an increase in fps upgrading yer graphics card.

Wow doesn't tax the graphics cards very hard its mainly cpu and memory.

Naysayer
08-07-2008, 03:01 AM
If you're looking for a great card for the money, consider the 4850.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121253

If money isn't an issue, definately go for the GTX 280.

If you want something in between, the 4870 is an excellent choice as is the GTX 260.

You really can't go wrong here. It's a great time for graphics cards. Wouldn't have said the same before the summer.

mikekim
08-07-2008, 03:09 AM
it all comes down to personal preference - do you like ATi or Nvidia cards, both are good.. take your pick

I personally stick with Nvidia (i have had too many overheating issues with ATI cards)

I currently have a BFG OC GTX260 in one of my rigs and get between 40-110fps on all four instances I'm running acrosss two monitors

sqeaky4100
08-07-2008, 03:09 AM
If you're looking for a great card for the money, consider the 4850.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121253

If money isn't an issue, definately go for the GTX 280.

If you want something in between, the 4870 is an excellent choice as is the GTX 260.

You really can't go wrong here. It's a great time for graphics cards. Wouldn't have said the same before the summer.



Which one should I go for than? The OC'd GTX 260, or the 4870?

sqeaky4100
08-07-2008, 03:25 AM
it all comes down to personal preference - do you like ATi or Nvidia cards, both are good.. take your pick

I personally stick with Nvidia (i have had too many overheating issues with ATI cards)

I currently have a BFG OC GTX260 in one of my rigs and get between 40-110fps on all four instances I'm running acrosss two monitors
What type of settings you running there?

Naysayer
08-07-2008, 03:29 AM
If you're looking for a great card for the money, consider the 4850.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121253

If money isn't an issue, definately go for the GTX 280.

If you want something in between, the 4870 is an excellent choice as is the GTX 260.

You really can't go wrong here. It's a great time for graphics cards. Wouldn't have said the same before the summer.



Which one should I go for than? The OC'd GTX 260, or the 4870?For WoW, the 4850 no doubt.

For Unreal tournament 3, the gtx 260

For crysis, the 4870.


If it were me buying a new card tomorrow morning, I'd buy the 4870.

I use 2 4850's in crossfire mode right now. 150$ for these cards? That's such a sweet deal I'd think that anyone who passes up on the 48500 right now and wasn't trying to maximize their rig at any cost is crazy. If money isn't an issue, buy 2 4870's and crossfire them. It's not an easy answer to give, but I tried.

mikekim
08-07-2008, 03:49 AM
it all comes down to personal preference - do you like ATi or Nvidia cards, both are good.. take your pick

I personally stick with Nvidia (i have had too many overheating issues with ATI cards)

I currently have a BFG OC GTX260 in one of my rigs and get between 40-110fps on all four instances I'm running acrosss two monitors
What type of settings you running there?

medium detail, 1,050x840, 1x Multisample (resolution is wierd because i have rotated the monitors 90')

Sina
08-07-2008, 12:04 PM
spend the extra dime and get the 280.

Tonuss
08-07-2008, 12:32 PM
I replaced a NVIDIA 8800GTS and NVIDIA 7800GTX cards with ATI Radeon 4870s and they work great. One system runs a single WoW instance at 1920x1200, the other runs four WoW instances at 800 x 600 (1600 x 1200 total).

I went with the 4870 because the performance looked very good and the price was much lower than NVIDIA's at the time ($290 for the radeons, like $400 and up for the NVIDIA cards). I think that either card you get will do the job, so shop by preference or price.

-silencer-
08-07-2008, 01:26 PM
If you have good case cooling, go with the 4850/4870 - lower fan noise and the case airflow will help keep temps reasonable.
If you have a more 'closed' case, go with the GTX 280 - higher fan noise and lower card temps.
I don't see a point in buying a GTX 260 at its current price point, unless you're using a very enclosed (noise-reducing) case and need to save some cash.
My roommate just bought a GTX 280, and I was completely turned off by the sound of a vacuum cleaner inside his case. It's *much* louder than my 8800GTX, and we have the same Antec P182 case.

Naysayer
08-07-2008, 03:30 PM
and I was completely turned off by the sound of a vacuum cleaner inside his case.rofl

sqeaky4100
08-07-2008, 04:57 PM
If you have good case cooling, go with the 4850/4870 - lower fan noise and the case airflow will help keep temps reasonable.
If you have a more 'closed' case, go with the GTX 280 - higher fan noise and lower card temps.
I don't see a point in buying a GTX 260 at its current price point, unless you're using a very enclosed (noise-reducing) case and need to save some cash.
My roommate just bought a GTX 280, and I was completely turned off by the sound of a vacuum cleaner inside his case. It's *much* louder than my 8800GTX, and we have the same Antec P182 case.From "my" research this is how it goes down.

The 280 smokes both the 4870 and 260 in 95% of the tests... The 4870 occasionally beats it in certain game tests for some odd reason.

The 260 and the 4870 are pn par with eachother. The 4870 is said to be roughly 6% faster.

The gtx 260 FTW edition is overclocked to be around 10% faster. This card is HANDPICKED from the testing line. So when a card does well stock, it gets picked to be a FTW edition. Then it also gets OC'd up the A**.

So I find the 4870 to be better than the 260 stock conditions... but the 260 can be overclocked to reach a lot more. Plus it doesn't have stupid fan problems ( I dont want to make a profile, and use it everytime I want a working fan )



HOWEVER; is it possible to return either video card to newegg if I dont like it? Theres a bestbuy down the street with a 4870 for $300 that I can try if I find I dont like 260 ftw

entoptic
08-11-2008, 04:09 AM
boxing 5 accounts on a quad core q6600 with 4 gigs ram and a HD4870. The display is a 30" LCD and I have 4 windows in 800x600 with everyone turned low and the active window is at 1024x768 with everyone to max.

It's super clean, super fast, has HD goodness and is quite. I hear my hard drives over it. Oh and the venting is nice as the rest of my box stays nice and cold.

Steph
08-11-2008, 06:51 AM
I am having serious trouble with 2x 4850. I bought two Sapphire 4850 512MB PCI-E cards. My system is very unstable, crashing every single time when reaching the windows desktop if both the Catalyst drivers are loaded and the Crossfire cable in place. My MSI P45 Ultimate mbx with a Q6700 and 8GB DDR2 memory is taunting me by looking pretty in my Thermaltake Armor case with Noctua CPU cooler. Running Vista Ultimate 64bit.

I updated the BIOS, tried both 32bit and 64bit, made sure I have all Windows Updates, tried the newest drivers. Tried a 800W instead of 650W PSU. Tried both PEG slots and cards seperately. No joy. Even using only one of the cards the system isn't fully stable.

I found a '4800 hotfix' marked as beta on the AMD site today, which is my last resort before I give up, return the shit and get a different graphics card. :cursing:

entoptic
08-11-2008, 04:25 PM
One works just fine man. I believe I heard that WoW sucks nuts in crossfire or SLI mode anyway.