legal question

[Feardis]

heyas.

i'll just cut to the chase, im 2 boxing with accounts in my name but i also have an account that is not in my name
i know i cant box with it
but what i want to know is if i use the account solo like i did before boxing
will it increase my chance of being banned?
now that i'm boxing gm's may take more of an intrest in my ip i guess is my worry

[Naysayer]

The account you're sharing will be banned, no doubt. It might even be queued to be banned in the future if you've been playing on it. The accounts in your name should be fine, but the moment they sniff your IP being tied to the account not in your name you better have a good excuse, which you most likely won't, which means you got someones account and characters banned until they prove who they are and then your account is next for sharing IP's with his.

Also, you're asking us if it's ok to exploit the TOS, which is a no-no. So don't if you care to be around here very long as they don't take kindly to that.

[Feardis]

im not sharing the account
i own the account.. from a friend who quit pre tbc so my ip is the only ip that has played it in the last 2 years...
i know its not ok to exploit the TOS.. im not a child
i was simply asking if this would violate the tos.
yet i dont get how people play alongside their wives with 2 seperate accounts and don't get banned
as if they were in the same house it would be the same ip am i right?
or is there a claus in the tos which forbids you from playin different accounts on the same pc?

[Feardis]

The account you're sharing will be banned, no doubt. It might even be queued to be banned in the future if you've been playing on it. The accounts in your name should be fine, but the moment they sniff your IP being tied to the account not in your name you better have a good excuse, which you most likely won't, which means you got someones account and characters banned until they prove who they are and then your account is next for sharing IP's with his.

Also, you're asking us if it's ok to exploit the TOS, which is a no-no. So don't if you care to be around here very long as they don't take kindly to that.btw at no time did i hint that i was sharing an account naysayer, way to jump to conclusions mate...
thanks for your help all the same...

[Tasty]

i own the account No you don't, you're friend does. Not trying to be a stick in the mud but thems the rules.

[Feardis]

no one has answered my question
i know i dont "own" the account.. no one owns wow accounts only blizzard
"thems the rules"

[Otlecs]

no one has answered my question
The problem you have is that basically you're asking something that's against the ToS.

You are, by Blizzard's definition, "sharing" the account. Even though you're patently not!

Given the community guidelines here (which I fully support), you're not going to get any answer other than "it's against the rules".

:S

[Feardis]

aight
that pretty much answers my question

[Naysayer]

You are, by Blizzard's definition, "sharing" the account.
This.

It's not personal, feardis, you asked a question and I answered it to the best of my knowledge.

[Feardis]

no harm done :)
fingers crossed i dont get banned

[Lanielle LaCroix]

Not at the first time ;) but try again and again and you will be banned ;)

Me and My Boyfriend are playing together in our house... we send an email to the support to explain why both accounts with different Owners are running with the same IP... cause we got a mail from the customer support why i'm running 2 accounts... i hope that helps a bit..

greetings from Germany ;)

[Otlecs]

cause we got a mail from the customer support why i'm running 2 accounts...
WOW! Really?

That's the first time I've ever heard of that! Could you post the email for us, please (with your account details removed, obviously) so I know what sort of thing to look for.

My wife and I have 11 accounts between us, and I've *often* had a friend over to play on his laptop. We've frequently had up to 15 connections going at one time from that single IP address (with the accounts owned and played by three different people), yet I've never, ever, been contacted by customer service either in- or out-of-game.

8|

[Feardis]

Not at the first time ;) but try again and again and you will be banned ;)

Me and My Boyfriend are playing together in our house... we send an email to the support to explain why both accounts with different Owners are running with the same IP... cause we got a mail from the customer support why i'm running 2 accounts... i hope that helps a bit..

greetings from Germany ;)




cause we got a mail from the customer support why i'm running 2 accounts...
WOW! Really?

That's the first time I've ever heard of that! Could you post the email for us, please (with your account details removed, obviously) so I know what sort of thing to look for.

My wife and I have 11 accounts between us, and I've *often* had a friend over to play on his laptop. We've frequently had up to 15 connections going at one time from that single IP address (with the accounts owned and played by three different people), yet I've never, ever, been contacted by customer service either in- or out-of-game.

8|pretty much unless someone reports you and your ip is monitored your in the clear
its risky business tho

[Otlecs]

>its risky business tho

Not what I'm doing isn't, and I suspect I've been reported many times :)

What I do is all entirely legal and above board. I've been muiltiboxing since April 2007, and a member here since about May 2007, but Lanielle's post is the first time I've heard of a pro-active email (of all things) from a CSR to ask why somebody owns multiple accounts!

[Lanielle LaCroix]

i could post the mail but i think you wouldn't understand a lot ;) its all written in german...

The info says... Our system shows that 2 accounts ( account x + y ) with different owners are running over the same ip... till this date, both were running under different ip adresses...

The reasen... we live now together ;) thats all what we have written to the customer support and then an GM talked to us ingame and said ... sorry for the inconvenience...

greetz Sarah

[Otlecs]

i could post the mail but i think you wouldn't understand a lot
Post away. I live in Frankfurt :)

I guess the differenciator here is that you moved from two accounts, two IP addresses to two accounts from the same IP address.

It's still a bit bizarre though!

[zanthor]

cause we got a mail from the customer support why i'm running 2 accounts...
WOW! Really?

That's the first time I've ever heard of that! Could you post the email for us, please (with your account details removed, obviously) so I know what sort of thing to look for.

My wife and I have 11 accounts between us, and I've *often* had a friend over to play on his laptop. We've frequently had up to 15 connections going at one time from that single IP address (with the accounts owned and played by three different people), yet I've never, ever, been contacted by customer service either in- or out-of-game.

8|Me... Fiance... Roomate... Coworker... Friends x 3... yea, 9 accounts in from the same IP and never a problem here. I've even logged my accounts in from the USA one day and UK the next and France the next week and back to the USA... there is definitely behavior they look for, but it's definitely lenient.

I would also suspect that having the blizzard authenticator is going to cause them to worry about this sort of thing quite a bit less. Not that you should break the ToS, but more to the point, we'll see a lot fewer false positives due to it. Just conjecture on my part.

[Naysayer]

This guy did what you are planning to do. He had 2 accounts in his name, and one from a friend who quit. Almost identical situation. Then one day.

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Not worth it imo.

[Meathead]

my brother lives iwth me and plays on his main account and i dual-box mine we got same Ip address can we get in trouble? If so then that is fairly stupied.

[Otlecs]

my brother lives iwth me and plays on his main account and i dual-box mine we got same Ip address can we get in trouble? If so then that is fairly stupied.
No no no. This is what I was worried people would start reading into this thread as it wandered off-track.

That's all fine, so long as it's as described.

[Meathead]

Ok ok Cool thanks for the heads up

[valtrex]

heyas.

i'll just cut to the chase, im 2 boxing with accounts in my name but i also have an account that is not in my name
i know i cant box with it
but what i want to know is if i use the account solo like i did before boxing
will it increase my chance of being banned?
now that i'm boxing gm's may take more of an intrest in my ip i guess is my worry

It is against the TOS but I dont know that they would ban you based on IP address. I play at work a lot with about 4 other guys :D. It probably looks like an internet cafe :D On the other hand, I am just speculating and they very well may ban the hell out of you.

[puppychow]

what is the OP expecting, someone to answer "I don't work for Blizzard, but I am 100% positive they will never, ever ban you! Rock on bro!"?

Nobody can answer these kind of questions except Blizzard, and their answer is always the same - if you are not the original owner, you cannot play. Now of course they can't tell who the OO is every time, so you can get away with it. Maybe. If someone reports you for whatever reason (harrasment, name violations, they see you multiboxing and don't understand what it is, etc) and Blizzard investigates they could ban you. They could implement super duper detection software in the next patch that will catch you. Who knows if/when you will ever get caught, but the penalty is the same - you will lose some or all of your accounts.

The sad thing is even people who are the OOs are always at risk of banning, with 5+ million accounts in the US/EU its easy for them to make a few mistakes and ban the wrong people. Don't get too emotionally attached to your characters :)