S3 Crusader questions

[Ellay]

With the main build appearing to be sweep attack, it seems right up our alley that we can perma stun lock anything, with 4 saders all having a 50% chance to frontal aoe stun.

Is it possible to have 4 laws running 100% or close to it?

The steed charge - draw and quarter. Will different saders grab the same mobs or grab their own if one is taken? I can see this being extremely useful being able to pull up to 20 monsters to the next spot.

Unsure if their DPS is able to overcome higher grifts, but it does look fun!

[Devile]

I haven't tried it yet cause I have 0 Golden Flenses and that's key to the build, but I think is completely doable. I'm already farming Flenses with my Crusaders which BTW are doing pretty good with F&R. With some CDR I thinks its completely posible to have 4 laws. No idea about steed charge tho. As for DPS, it's quite insane, but I don't think that will be the problem. Survivability will be so u need to have perma uptime of damage reduction laws and at least 1 defense gem.

PS: Just did a GR47 with Condemn Crusaders. F&R does insane damage and that's all u need. The rest is all about survivability. Almost failed cause I kept dying.

[Ellay]

Interested to see a video if you get a chance I know it's not the sweep build, but it's something.
It also might be time to mix and match.
Throwing a monk into the fold gives tons of survivability, and hypotheitcally with all the stunning - shouldn't get hit much.

[Devile]

Not the best, not the worst either. Been getting really nasty Act 5 mobs all day long. F&R are the best rings but CDR is a pain in the butt with them. No Leoric's hurts a lot. Doable but doesn't feel good, at least not when multiboxing.

[Ellay]

I had no idea there was almost instant cast Condemn, hilarious how it sucks everything on top.
Appreciate throwing up the video.

[Devile]

For 2.1.2 it was very good, but 2.2 it doesn't compare with GR50+ builds. Not a single 1 after hours. This build can hit 50 maybe, but it will be a really long RG fight.

I'm doing 37s in less than 4mins to farm Golden Flenses. So far, no even 1.

[Ellay]

can you tell me how the stacking works with the horse pulling mobs. Can you get a stack of potentially 20 or does it try to grab what other characters have?

Think this build would benefit from a monk using Exploding palm?

[Zwizm]

In limited testing, I believe the "pull" mechanic, when used all at once, does not check for it's own existence on a mob. Sure you can pull 20 mobs at once if you're lucky but you can just as easily pull 5 mobs total.

I decided to try out the Roland setup on the PTR to check its viability before I try to gear up for it in an Era. I'm working on getting Ancients for each of the set pieces, having acquired them all in non-ancient form but I have not seen a single Flense drop yet. What is that all about? I return to town every 3 minutes with a full inventory as Legs are dropping at an absurd rate, yet not once Flense in about 50 full T6 Rift clears?

[Devile]

Ha! Full week, several paragon levels and not a single Flense, nada! Shield Bash does a stupid amount of damage too. With a non Ancient Furnace I hitting 8b+ crits on RG. GR37 dies in what? 8 hits or so? Granted half of them will be crits. Sweep Attack has the benefit of stunning and feeing the brazer slot, but if u cant get the weapon, Shield Bash does huge single target damage and works with any 2 hander. Tried an Ancient Heart Slaughter and the damage is pretty close to a non Ancient Furnace on elites but trash goes a lot faster.

The pull mechanic ... no idea. Haven't tested but I doubt it will pick non pulled mobs.

[Ellay]

the pull mechanic is meh. Thinking about dropping it. I would say it's even worse using 4 as opposed to just 1. I'll be in a pack and pull sometimes like 2-3 mobs.