Xeneres Mythic+ Videos

[Xeneres]

Update: Ran a few more difficult dungeons checkout here:

http://www.dual-boxing.com/threads/5...l=1#post407051

I ran a few more Mythic+ over the weekend. I also got my first 2 legendary out of one Mythic+1 Neltharions Lair(finally!). I got the DK cloak that increases AMS duration by 100% (10 seconds!) and it also makes any magic damage taken heal you. I also got the ring that increases my damage and healing while standing in DnD by 5%. These are some of the 3 legendary that I wanted. The other one I want is the one that refunds a portion of your runic power spent when your Death Strike heals you for 15%. I'd take either 3 but have a preference for the cloak due to increased ability to cheese fights.

I also stopped being cheap and bought the mark of the hidden satyr neck enchant. It did about 5% of my damage on each toon. So it helped offset the tank nerfs. It has a fairly high proc rate maybe 4-5 a minute? I've seen it Crit for almost 300k on the paladin. There is another enchant that does the same thing but with a volley of arrows on a target. I believe both of them do the same thing just looks different. I think the Nightmare bolts look pretty cool.

Several of my guildies have gotten their legendary out of mythic+ and their weekly chests. Maybe it has some kind of pity timer that increases your chance to get them the more mythic or mythic+ you do?

I was able to get 2 chests out of every mythic+1 I ran. I ran 2 Maw of Souls+1 and finished them both in around 15-16 minutes. I also ran Neltharions Lair+1 and was able to get 2 chests despite pulling a trash pack + the last boss at the same time and I also did not kill enough trash so I had to die and run back towards the start to kill enough trash to complete it. I may of been able to get a 3rd chest out of that one had i cleared more trash. I was able to get a +3 keystone and skip+2 because of clearing +1 so fast.

I got Blackrook+3 hold and Dark Heart Thicket+3 both had the affixes of Sanguine and since those dungeons are more heavy on the trash and difficult trash it made it more difficult to speed pull the trash. I was not able to beat the timer on any of the Mythic+3 that I ran. At +3 the bosses and trash had +26 % life and damage. Sanguine makes a pool of blood after each non-boss mob dies that damages you for 200k a second damage and heals other trash mobs that stand in it. The pools can stack so you have be careful on some packs. So I had to kill stuff and then kite the others out of the pools. They start small but grow about 6 yards wide. They didn't seem to despawn either for quite some time. Not all trash made the puddles swarm things like the fel bat pup gauntlet in blackrook did not spawn them or the bloods before Dresaron. However the whelps did spawn them and since you are in water and everything in that dungeon is red it makes the sanguine pools difficult to see.

It took me about an hour to clear blackrook hold +3 and about 40 minutes to clear Darkheart Thicket. I maybe could have gotten DHT within the timer if I skipped more trash. I ran it right after messing up the trash Neltharion's lair so I was pulling more trash than was needed. I underestimated how much trash DHT has after the first boss. I did not wipe on any bosses in DHT. Some of the bosses in DHT were not scaled fully in HP, I suspect this was due to their mechanics being too healer intensive. The Archdruid and Oakheart seemed to have lower hp than what I was expecting at +26%. I struggled with the first boss in Blackrook hold all other bosses were mostly 1 shots. On the first boss I had to do my always moving strategy. The worst part was the swirling scythe I had to make sure I positioned myself so that I would not have any toons trying to follow me and run into it as it did a fair bit of damage. I also had a few messups with the reap soul and I did not kill enough sprits and got one shot when it did the AoE. It didnt help that on one attempt I mass gripped them into the boss; I meant to grip them out further. I started to kill at least 2 and then try to mass grip and finish off as many of the others as I could. I got lasered on the dreadlord but that fight is stupid easy aside from that. The only difficult part was surviving until Ravencrest gives you the buff. I'm not very good at predicting where the laser will be during dreadlords guile...it always seems like the first one is right on top of my toons or just behind me. Fun fact it does 6 million damage at mythic+3




Timeline:

Maw of Souls+1

Ymirion :https://youtu.be/OPosgZSjOYo?t=121

--Well not quite at Ymiron yet. I wanted to show off that DK AoE DPS. They can do some very serious burst AoE with double Dancing Rune Weapon.

Harbaron: https://youtu.be/OPosgZSjOYo?t=444

Helya: https://youtu.be/OPosgZSjOYo?t=765


Blackrook+3 Start: https://youtu.be/OPosgZSjOYo?t=1557

Amalgam of Souls:https://youtu.be/OPosgZSjOYo?t=2572

Evil Spiders (almost always lose most of my team to them):https://youtu.be/OPosgZSjOYo?t=2805

Illysanna Ravencrest:https://youtu.be/OPosgZSjOYo?t=3362

These guys were fun with Sanguine and Mythic+3...https://youtu.be/OPosgZSjOYo?t=3631

Smashspite the Hateful:https://youtu.be/OPosgZSjOYo?t=4333

Ravencrest/Dreadlord:https://youtu.be/OPosgZSjOYo?t=4870

Neltharion's Lair+1:https://youtu.be/OPosgZSjOYo?t=6879

Rokmora:https://youtu.be/OPosgZSjOYo?t=7055

Ularogg:https://youtu.be/OPosgZSjOYo?t=7494

Naraxas:https://youtu.be/OPosgZSjOYo?t=7799

---Note: I was pretty nervous about Naraxas. It always feels like I'm right on the verge of wiping but some how survive. This may be a fight like Odyn that turns into a nearly impossible fight on a higher difficulty. It's very melee unfriendly due to always having to bathe in the poison.

Accidental Dargrul Pull + Trash Mobs Somehow Survived (Mythic++?!):https://youtu.be/OPosgZSjOYo?t=8073

Oops I need more trash(rip my timer...): https://youtu.be/OPosgZSjOYo?t=8319

A wild Legendary appears - One in Each Chest (2/5): https://youtu.be/OPosgZSjOYo?t=8660

Darkheart Thicket+3 Start: https://youtu.be/OPosgZSjOYo?t=9765

Archdruid Glaidalis: https://youtu.be/OPosgZSjOYo?t=10415

Oakheart: https://youtu.be/OPosgZSjOYo?t=10967

Dresaron (Non Optional in Mythic+):https://youtu.be/OPosgZSjOYo?t=11276

Shade of Xavius:https://youtu.be/OPosgZSjOYo?t=11647

Maw of Souls+1 (Round 2) Start: https://youtu.be/OPosgZSjOYo?t=12371

Ymirion : https://youtu.be/OPosgZSjOYo?t=12502

Harbaron: https://youtu.be/OPosgZSjOYo?t=12810

Helya: https://youtu.be/OPosgZSjOYo?t=13135

[davidmage]

Very impressive!
Many of the mythics you are running in + I have some serious problems with just in regular mythic.
For example the third boss in Neltharion's lair. I cannot handle the mechanics and end up getting eaten and/or dying from all the AoE. I got that keystonex5 this week, so that sucked.
Was hoping to get a Maw of Souls keystone, because I am confident I can beat the timer now.

[Xeneres]

Very impressive!
Many of the mythics you are running in + I have some serious problems with just in regular mythic.
For example the third boss in Neltharion's lair. I cannot handle the mechanics and end up getting eaten and/or dying from all the AoE. I got that keystonex5 this week, so that sucked.
Was hoping to get a Maw of Souls keystone, because I am confident I can beat the timer now.

Yea the AoE sucks on the worm boss. Even if you try to stay stacked and move out of it it will still eventually cover the entire front of the boss. I found that you can melee a bit back from the front which may help but IWT always wants to run right up to the bosses face. Still it takes this boss next to no time to cover anywhere your toons are with posion.

I found it best to just slightly spread out for the AoE so that any of the targeted AoE volley it does doesn't hit all your toons at once x5. When the adds come I MUST kill them on any mythic difficulty unless the boss it at under 5 million health. The adds spawn in the back and if you are fast enough you can get a bit of cleave onto them before they go to the left and right side. I found that having BoP on the toon that is about to get eaten/spiked tongue is very helpful. I do enough damage that I only typically have to deal with 1 or 2 spiked tongues. As long as I don't screw up killing adds 1 or 2 stacks of its damage buff is somewhat manageable.

Neltharion's Lair+1 isn't that bad for me. It's actually one of the ones I may even be able to get a 3rd chest if I would of have killed enough trash.

I read somewhere that you need to be at 81% trash (if I'm remembering it correctly) completion before you do the worm boss for there to be enough trash. I just need to make sure I hit that point before I drop down to Dargruls area.

[Mokoi]

Has anyone tried using 5x DH tanks? I am curious how they stack up against DK and Paladins.

[Xeneres]

I need to be careful next week when opening the weekly chests at reset since they will give you keystones slightly lower than your best run. So I imagine they will give me Mythic+2 keystones. I'd probably rather start at +1 and work my way up in case I get some difficult dungeons.

Its just very tempting to open that 860+ loot chest x5 each week (I should get 860 loot for doing +3). Last week I only completed Mythic+1 so it gave me +1 keystones from the chest.

I have a +4 Blackrook w/ Sanguine and a +1 maw of souls and Court of Stars+1 Left. I'll do the Blackrook 1st and then Maw of souls and see what I get. I don't think I can beat Court of Stars+1 within the timer there is too much randomness to that dungeon such as playing clue and dealing with the trash to fight the 2nd boss. If I have time I'll at least give it a try and see how it goes. My paladin legendary allows me to cheese clue but I need to typically get 2 clues before I can do it. I have difficulties with the last boss also. I have never one shot it as of yet and 8% health and damage probably will certainly not make it easier.

I'll be streaming tonight around 6-8 Eastern Standard Time after I do my world quests, and finish up the Mythic+. Hopefully I'll get another easy +3 dungeon from my remaining +1 Maw of Souls.

[Xeneres]

Has anyone tried using 5x DH tanks? I am curious how they stack up against DK and Paladins.

I don't think it would work. You need some type of a heal on the toon that is tanking or spikes low. So you would have to run with some type of a healer. DKs and DHs are very spikey.

I did think about going 1x Monk/Druid and 4x Demonhunter but decided against it due to lacking multiple battle rez, death grip and not being all plate for loot trading (they also have a much smaller radius AoE grip). Death Grip really is one of the best abilities for boxers to have as it is the best gap closer for us. DKs are also slightly more self sufficient than DHs and have the ability to cheese many mechanics. DHs do have cool downs that actually reduce the amount of damage taken which is nice. DKs just take nearly full damage but at least have a crap ton of self heals and % hp increases. Still DHs are probably 60-75% as much self healing as DKs. I'll admit I found myself wishing I had the mobility of a DH at times.

Some bosses I can get by without the paladin or if the paladin dies but it requires almost perfect taunt swapping to not get whittled down to 0. You also do not have a dispel if you run 5x DH. Not having a magic dispel makes fights like Mythic Shivermaw almost impossible. I find the paladins disease and poison dispel quite helpful. Luckily in this expansion no boss has actually required me to dispel other than maybe Mythic Shivermaws breath.

If I do make another team It would be a Druid or Mistweaver + DH team. (Probably druid for brez). I'll only make it if I get bored which probably wont happen for quite some time.

[Xeneres]

Blackrook Hold+3 (Sanguine)

Amalgam of Souls: https://youtu.be/0wAex-CR1ng?t=308

(evil spiders after 1st boss are still evil)

Illysanna Ravencrest: https://youtu.be/0wAex-CR1ng?t=1286

Smashspite:https://youtu.be/0wAex-CR1ng?t=2002

Ravencrest/Dread Lord:https://youtu.be/0wAex-CR1ng?t=2542

--I had technical difficulties with the laser for a few attempts so I had to solo a good bit of the Dread Lord with one DK. I really need to figure it out. I don't think I've ever not wiped to it at least one on Mythic Difficulty.


Maw of Souls+1 (I was very sloppy and tried some big pulls that backfired horribly still got 2 chests)Ymiron:https://youtu.be/0wAex-CR1ng?t=3813Harbaron:https://youtu.be/0wAex-CR1ng?t=4096

--I tried to save my CDs on this boss and pull a lot of trash after which I learned was a bad idea as it made the boss slower and more annoying

Helya:https://youtu.be/0wAex-CR1ng?t=4563



Court of Stars+1 It Wasn't too bad a lot of trash can be skipped and you need to know what you can skip

Captain Gerdo https://youtu.be/0wAex-CR1ng?t=5843

Talixae Flamewreath:https://youtu.be/0wAex-CR1ng?t=6432

--I decided to pull her back so I didn't have to clear more trash

Advisor Melandrus:https://youtu.be/0wAex-CR1ng?t=6793

--Truthguard lets you cheese clue a bit by identifying the group with the demon in it but I messed up the sleeves or no sleeves part but luckily I have 5 toons to guess correctly. This boss I feel like I'm on the verge of wiping within a few seconds. I saved my CDs till about the middle and hoped I could survive.


Heroic Daily Neltharion's Lair (I made it my goal to not move out of anything and to see how many mobs I could
pull at once) - https://youtu.be/0wAex-CR1ng?t=7323


The Arcway+2 (Trash the dungeon) - Timer was 45 Minutes. I got 2 chests out of it. Somehow I didn't wipe to any bosses. Hopefully by now I'll be a bit better on these bosses. It takes 3-4 runs for me to get comfortable with a dungeon. I've only run Arcway one or two times before this. This place would be much more difficult with Sanguine due to all of the trash. I guess I was lucky I got it on +2.

Ivanyr:https://youtu.be/0wAex-CR1ng?t=8801

Corstillax:https://youtu.be/0wAex-CR1ng?t=9066

General Xakal: https://youtu.be/0wAex-CR1ng?t=9893

--Note I fought Spider Boss first

Nal'tira:https://youtu.be/0wAex-CR1ng?t=9281

-Not the exact start of the boss but I did some very risky pulls by pulling that entire room of exploding spiders and stunning spiders. Was fun!

Advisor Vandros: https://youtu.be/0wAex-CR1ng?t=10164

Vault of the Wardens+4 (Sanguine) - This my was my first +4 dungeon. It honestly was not that bad. I barely felt that it was that much more difficult than regular Mythic despite being +36% more hp and damage. I even made it to Cordana before the timer expired with 2 minutes left. I had a reset on Ash'Golm and could have been more aggressive on my trash pulling and it may of been possible but I wiped on Cordana a few times. All of the other bosses were 1 shots.

Tirathon Saltheril:https://youtu.be/0wAex-CR1ng?t=11406

Imp Mother (sometimes the hardest thing in this dungeon): https://youtu.be/0wAex-CR1ng?t=11598

Inquisitor Tormentorum:https://youtu.be/0wAex-CR1ng?t=11711

Glazer:https://youtu.be/0wAex-CR1ng?t=12046

Ash'Golm:https://youtu.be/0wAex-CR1ng?t=12368

--Reset on me when one of my toons tanking got knocked off the platform

Cordana Timer and 1st Attempt:https://youtu.be/0wAex-CR1ng?t=12882

Cordana Kill:https://youtu.be/0wAex-CR1ng?t=13658

-I Had almost 2 minutes left on the timer when I reached Cordana. Need to clean up a few things and it is possible to multibox this one within a timer. Cordana can always be tricky. That Glaive does a stupid amount of damage when I run to kill the Avatar of Vengeance while grouped up.

I think I'm going to run Halls of Valor Mythic to get my +1 Keystone (I have a quest for that dungeon) and see where they take me instead of getting my +2 or +3 from my chest. I'm trying to avoid halls of valor on Mythic+ as it was pretty rough and long when I did it on +2. My gear has gotten better and I've gotten 2 legendary since then so maybe I'll give it another shot.

[Xeneres]

I opened my weekly mythic+ chests last week after doing Mythic+4 and they were mythic 5(+4) 865 loot which are equivalent to the base ilevel of heroic raids. A few toons got some sockets and extra stats. My toons are now around 854-857 ilevel. Regular Mythics are starting to feel more like heroics after doing a several Mythic+3 and 4's. As I get more legendary and more titanforged/warforged pieces I expect eventually Mythic+4 will feel like regular mythics.

I ran mythic Halls of Valor this week and it gave me mythic+4 keystones. I guess misunderstood how it works. It apparently gives you the same keystone of the highest difficulty that you were able to clear. I was hoping to start at +1 and secure 1-2 extra chests by plowing through+1 and for the extra loot and legendary chances.

I got some pretty good Mythic+4s this week:

Eye of Azhara (Serpentrix will be rough but doable)

Vault of the Wardens

The Arcway

Darkheart Thicket

Maw of Souls

The affix this week is Teeaming which just increases the amount of trash you have to do and increases the trash mobs in a pack by one or two. This is a very good affix for tank multiboxers because trash is typically not a problem for our team and not having to move after every mob we kill (sanguine) will make clearing trash much easier than last week.

Still, it would suck to have to deal with extra trash on that Stormdragon pack in halls of valor, before Hymdall. Hopefully blizzard shows mercy.

Serpentrix with 36% more health and damage is going to suck but it should be doable with good RNG on where it emerges from after submerging.

My plan this week is to clear all the regular Mythics for any extra loot chances and then to work on Mythic+ dungeons. I may be able to get a few within the timer.

I'll be streaming the regular and mythic+ most nights 7-11ish (Eastern Standard Time) and if anyone wants to watch. I'll probably wait until the weekend to start the Mythic+ dungeons and will be streaming until I fall asleep those nights. There will probably be lots of frustration with some of the more difficult dungeons. http://twitch.tv/xeneres00

[Ughmahedhurtz]

Did I miss it or do you have a vid of Serpentrix in there?

[Pazgaz]

I've seen his vid of Serpentrix (kill + tries). So many CRs
Can't do that with a pala team.