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  1. #31

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    I ran the D3 Character Planner simulation with that wizard setup a couple of days ago too, and while the number will still be very high, you'll only get a part of this, since I don't see how you can cast 3 to 4 Twisters per second as in the simulation

  2. #32

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    No idea how d3planner does that simulation but it should consider your APS, otherwise it makes no sense. But even then, if its doing something wrong with the APS, its the same problem for all classes and there's a reason why DMO wizards were way higher in the PTR leaderboards than any other class. In a few weeks we will see how things go.

  3. #33

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    Did again the simulation changing a few things that didn't make sense and still the numbers are very high compared to other classes:

    http://www.d3planner.com/453951862

    I dunno, take a look at it and let me know if there's something wrong. It looks fine to me now, with the right APS. Just the numbers are VERY high compared to other classes. With this, a party of 3 DMO Wizards + Support Barb should do insane damage.

    2nd best would be Roland Crusader with Sweep Attack with 2.2T:

    http://www.d3planner.com/315841342

    3rd place is for M6 Chrakram DH with 1.4T damage:

    http://www.d3planner.com/883202279

    I tried to simulate Invoker Crusader but I dont think d3planner is working fine with Thorns ... it's not considering bombardment damage from the belt and that's a lot of damage missing in the simulation:

    http://www.d3planner.com/130454876

    Also noticed that d3planner doesn't consider any cooldown reduce items like ORotZ ring or Akarat's Awakening shield. It's just a straight simulation based on skills cooldown (considering sheet CDR only). Builds that rely on this items to reduce cooldowns will be off by quite some damage.

    Didn't bother to simulate any of the LoN builds. That will take forever to gear.
    Last edited by Devile : 01-15-2016 at 12:23 AM

  4. #34

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devile View Post
    Did again the simulation changing a few things that didn't make sense and still the numbers are very high compared to other classes:

    http://www.d3planner.com/453951862

    I dunno, take a look at it and let me know if there's something wrong. It looks fine to me now, with the right APS. Just the numbers are VERY high compared to other classes. With this, a party of 3 DMO Wizards + Support Barb should do insane damage.

    2nd best would be Roland Crusader with Sweep Attack with 2.2T:

    http://www.d3planner.com/315841342

    3rd place is for M6 Chrakram DH with 1.4T damage:

    http://www.d3planner.com/883202279

    I tried to simulate Invoker Crusader but I dont think d3planner is working fine with Thorns ... it's not considering bombardment damage from the belt and that's a lot of damage missing in the simulation:

    http://www.d3planner.com/130454876

    Also noticed that d3planner doesn't consider any cooldown reduce items like ORotZ ring or Akarat's Awakening shield. It's just a straight simulation based on skills cooldown (considering sheet CDR only). Builds that rely on this items to reduce cooldowns will be off by quite some damage.

    Didn't bother to simulate any of the LoN builds. That will take forever to gear.
    Is the simulation calculating properly? 9 trillion DPS seems so utterly broken that it will get nerfed week 1, especially if the second best is 2.2 trillion.

    Also darque's group planner sims at 32 trillion. http://www.d3planner.com/968930983 and 37 trillion http://www.d3planner.com/882367074
    Last edited by Shodokan : 01-15-2016 at 12:29 AM
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  5. #35

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    Yeah, with rank 90 gems, all ancient with 450 stats, it goes over 30 trillion. DMO is not the problem, the new Twisted Sword seems to be. Energy Twister damage increased 150% for each ET u have out? With high APS, u can have a lot of those flying around + the 2000% damage buff from DMO, it scales like crazy.

    Maybe it's just D3planner messing up some calculations. Soon enough we will be able to tell if its the game or the web

  6. #36

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devile View Post
    3rd place is for M6 Chrakram DH with 1.4T damage:

    http://www.d3planner.com/883202279
    In this template you never hit with a resource-spending attack so the zodiac ring in the cube won't work as intended. Chakram is considered as resource-generating attack. Therefore Vengeance will only be up ~33% of time, etc.

  7. #37

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cmoidudu View Post
    In this template you never hit with a resource-spending attack so the zodiac ring in the cube won't work as intended. Chakram is considered as resource-generating attack. Therefore Vengeance will only be up ~33% of time, etc.
    U are absolutely right. d3planner is working fine with ORotZ. Need to test it ingame tho, see if it actually doesn't proc ORotZ but it makes sense that it doesn't. Added RRoG + Leoric Crown and damage went up 50b. Tho I don't think d3planner works with Akarat's Awakening shield which reduces cooldown based on successful blocks.

    PS: Something very interesting to test is if Sentry Guardian Turrets stack the damage reduction. I know your own Turrents don't stack, but read a long time ago the ones from your party stack. If that's the case, that would be very nice for a multiboxing setup. Also, u can go with an Elusive Ring in cube and Shadow Power instead MotD or even Vengeance for a huge toughness boost.
    Last edited by Devile : 01-15-2016 at 09:44 AM

  8. #38

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    So what's the verdict for s5 teams? I'm thinking 3xWizards and a Barb?
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  9. #39

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kicksome View Post
    So what's the verdict for s5 teams? I'm thinking 3xWizards and a Barb?
    That looks to be the strongest class stacking group. Crusaders also look really strong for stacking with their LoN setup.
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  10. #40

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    DHs, Crusaders and Wizards are the best choices. Wizards are looking stronger, but if the numbers are right, they could be nerfed. We will see in a few weeks. LoN builds are amazing, but they will take quite a while to gear. For non season I'm thinking on trying a DMO ET Wizard, LoN WD (dart or pets), support WD and support Barb. 2 dps, 2 supports.
    Last edited by Devile : 01-15-2016 at 02:54 PM

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