another thought is, do you think i would ever be able to find someone to run incursions with where i just run dps ships? atm i got 7 characters with high gunnery and t2 large lasers subbed which atm is in a WH running sites in there in drone boats. Ive never bothered with incursions due to hearing that people there hate boxers and i havent had more then 8 characters untill recently.