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  1. #41

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    Here's my thoughts...

    [Paladin, PVE triage shield RR]
    Imperial Navy Large Armor Repairer
    Imperial Navy Large Armor Repairer
    Corpii A-Type Adaptive Nano Plating
    Corpii A-Type Adaptive Nano Plating
    True Sansha Capacitor Power Relay
    True Sansha Capacitor Power Relay
    True Sansha Capacitor Power Relay


    Cap Recharger II
    Cap Recharger II
    Cap Recharger II
    Cap Recharger II


    Large S95a Remote Shield Booster
    Large S95a Remote Shield Booster
    Large S95a Remote Shield Booster
    Gistum A-Type Medium Remote Shield Booster
    Bastion Module I
    Gistum A-Type Medium Remote Shield Booster
    [empty high slot]
    [empty high slot]


    Large Capacitor Control Circuit II
    Large Capacitor Control Circuit II


    The above for triage.

    Reps pretty solid, has tons of extra capacitor, meaning I can run local tank perma and not have to micro at all ever!

    Why shield mini-triage instead of the superior armor mini-triage?

    [Gila, BOXER_ULTIMATE]
    Drone Damage Amplifier II
    Drone Damage Amplifier II
    Drone Damage Amplifier II
    Internal Force Field Array I


    Large Shield Extender II
    Large Shield Extender II
    Pithum C-Type EM Ward Amplifier
    Pithum C-Type Kinetic Deflection Amplifier
    Large Shield Extender II
    Sentient Drone Navigation Computer


    Drone Link Augmentor I
    Drone Link Augmentor I
    Drone Link Augmentor I
    [empty high slot]
    [empty high slot]


    Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer II
    Medium Core Defense Field Extender II
    Medium Core Defense Field Extender II


    Hammerhead II x2
    Valkyrie II x2

    This would be my primary boxed dps.

    Possibly swap out the 3rd LSE for an invuln field, but I am concerned about neuting turning things off.

    Each of these clocks in at just over 103k ehp, dealing 635 dps with Hammerheads.

    Hammers move at 3300 or so, while valkyies clock in at just under 5,000.

    Mediums track fairly well ofc, and are very cheap to replace compared to geckos. They are also easier to max out in terms of dps skills for lower SP chars.

    To top this all off, you have the triggership + links.

    [Eos, shield buff]
    Damage Control II
    Drone Damage Amplifier II
    Drone Damage Amplifier II
    Drone Damage Amplifier II
    Signal Amplifier II
    Signal Amplifier II


    Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
    Large Shield Extender II
    Pith C-Type EM Ward Field
    Republic Fleet Target Painter


    Siege Warfare Link - Active Shielding II
    Siege Warfare Link - Shield Efficiency II
    Siege Warfare Link - Shield Harmonizing II
    [empty high slot]
    [empty high slot]
    [empty high slot]


    Medium Core Defense Field Extender II
    Medium Core Defense Field Extender II


    Gecko x2
    Hammerhead II x2
    Hobgoblin II x1

    Packs an additional 824 dps.

    You drone assist to the Eos, which target paints the targets to trigger the assist.

    Also, those drone limits?

    One can only have 50 assisted drones at one time.

    Gilas don't use 5 drones like most ships - they use 2.

    This means that you can potentially box up to 25 gilas off one trigger.


    I figure this should work pretty well. Thoughts?

    If you live in your own WH, and don't worry about mass as much, I'd suggest rattlesnakes - more dps and easier tank/buffer.

  2. #42

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    Slightly improved, but more expensive triage paladin.

    Solves the issue of capacitor - u get an energy xfer.

    [Paladin, PVE triage shield RR]
    Corpus X-Type Large Armor Repairer
    Corpii A-Type Adaptive Nano Plating
    Corpii A-Type Adaptive Nano Plating
    Caldari Navy Co-Processor
    True Sansha Capacitor Power Relay
    True Sansha Capacitor Power Relay
    True Sansha Capacitor Power Relay


    Cap Recharger II
    Cap Recharger II
    Cap Recharger II
    Cap Recharger II


    Large S95a Remote Shield Booster
    Large S95a Remote Shield Booster
    Large S95a Remote Shield Booster
    Gistum A-Type Medium Remote Shield Booster
    Bastion Module I
    Gistum A-Type Medium Remote Shield Booster
    Gistum A-Type Medium Remote Shield Booster
    Large 'Regard' Remote Capacitor Transmitter


    Large Capacitor Control Circuit II
    Large Capacitor Control Circuit II

    EDIT: Haha post the fit.
    Last edited by LordsServant : 09-11-2014 at 12:03 AM

  3. #43

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    The problem with the rattlesnakes, is they take 100% of the incoming damage, which is really hard hitting, and the Paladin shield only reps barely enough to cover the incoming DPS. If you get painted / webbed etc etc, you are going to have a bad time.

    The armor though, can cover the reps with 3 armor reps, and have 4 spare. A Paladin can armor tank 2 ships non-stop AND local tank cap stable. That's pretty good. In fact, for totally braindead setups, you could run one paladin for every 2 DPS ships, and really win at EVE.. lol. not a TERRIBLE idea for someone running lets say 5 accounts, and wants a paladin, 2 DPS, an off-grid booster/salvager (Salvulture, anyone?) and then a scout to watch an active hole etc...

    Not the worst idea, but slow that way. I will have 2 Paladin pilots, since I have 2 trained for the remote armor and BS V for the nestors anyway. I might run easy-mode days with 2 Paladins, 4 Ishtars / Droneus and an offgrid salvaging booster. Maybe a scout, if I want to be safe... but I love to whelp gilas, so who knows. Maybe ill broadcast in local instead.

  4. #44

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    Realized I was a bit overtanked on the paladin, pve wise.

    If I do some tweaking....

    [Paladin, PVE triage shield RR_FINAL]
    Imperial Navy Large Armor Repairer
    Corpii A-Type Adaptive Nano Plating
    Imperial Navy Large Armor Repairer
    Dread Guristas Co-Processor
    True Sansha Capacitor Power Relay
    True Sansha Capacitor Power Relay
    True Sansha Capacitor Power Relay


    Cap Recharger II
    Cap Recharger II
    Cap Recharger II
    Cap Recharger II


    Large S95a Remote Shield Booster
    Large S95a Remote Shield Booster
    Gistum A-Type Medium Remote Shield Booster
    Gistum A-Type Medium Remote Shield Booster
    Bastion Module I
    Gistum A-Type Medium Remote Shield Booster
    Gistum A-Type Medium Remote Shield Booster
    Large 'Regard' Remote Capacitor Transmitter


    Large Capacitor Control Circuit II
    Large Capacitor Control Circuit II

    Still cheap, but also packs the extra energy xfer and RR.

    It does require either constant usage of drugs - exile - or the running of extra links.

    For me personally, I'm sitting on a pile of high SP chars, so I can simply stack another Eos into my mix.

    Paladin - Eos x2(one shield link, one armor link) - Gila x 10 is what I'm shooting for in an ideal fleet.

    Paladin can lock up 10 targets at once without getting a passive targeter or some BS which reduces my tank numbers.

    With the addition of the energy xfer, we can definitely run the invuln on the gila, increasing our tank numbers AND ehp.

    [Gila, BOXER_ULTIMATE]
    Drone Damage Amplifier II
    Drone Damage Amplifier II
    Drone Damage Amplifier II
    Internal Force Field Array I


    Large Shield Extender II
    Large Shield Extender II
    Pithum C-Type EM Ward Amplifier
    Pithum C-Type Kinetic Deflection Amplifier
    Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
    Sentient Drone Navigation Computer


    Drone Link Augmentor I
    Drone Link Augmentor I
    Drone Link Augmentor I
    [empty high slot]
    [empty high slot]


    Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer II
    Medium Core Defense Field Extender II
    Medium Core Defense Field Extender II


    Hammerhead II x2
    Valkyrie II x2



    For 2nd Eos, maybe this?

    [Eos, 2nd Eos]
    Internal Force Field Array I
    Drone Damage Amplifier II
    Drone Damage Amplifier II
    Drone Damage Amplifier II
    Dread Guristas Co-Processor
    Dread Guristas Co-Processor


    Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
    Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
    Pith C-Type EM Ward Field
    Command Processor I


    Armored Warfare Link - Damage Control II
    Armored Warfare Link - Passive Defense II
    Armored Warfare Link - Rapid Repair II
    Information Warfare Link - Sensor Integrity II
    Drone Link Augmentor I
    Drone Link Augmentor I


    Medium Core Defense Field Extender II
    Medium Core Defense Field Extender II


    Gecko x2
    Hammerhead II x2
    Hobgoblin II x1

  5. #45

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    Also, at over half a billion each, I think you are better off using Droneus and Geckos. Much cheaper than the Gilas, and you get the bonus of using armor reps from the Paladin, and the T3 bonus of being awesome.

  6. #46

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    Mokoi my post above solves the repping problem.

    Still not quite as good as being able to do 2 ships at once, but there's a lot to be said about frontloaded reps over the way armor reps have to cycle first.

    You got comms or can u hop on eve and send em to me? We should discuss this.

  7. #47

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    But, whats with the remote cap xfer? who are you sending cap to?

  8. #48

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mokoi View Post
    But, whats with the remote cap xfer? who are you sending cap to?
    If Gilas get neuted, invuln can turn off.

    If command ships get neuted, links and their tank can turn off. Also painters couldnt cycle for assist.

  9. #49

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    Ah, good idea We used to use the Ishtars to feed cap to our guardians / Basis, and one to the command ships if on grid, too. Was useful at times. Didn't think a Paladin could remote cap xfer, but that's just get xfer, not send, right?

  10. #50

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mokoi View Post
    Ah, good idea We used to use the Ishtars to feed cap to our guardians / Basis, and one to the command ships if on grid, too. Was useful at times. Didn't think a Paladin could remote cap xfer, but that's just get xfer, not send, right?
    Paladin just xfers out - it cannot receive anything back.

    luckily, we have a huge amount of cap regen on the paladin thanks to our fit and sexy 5% bonus per amarr BS level for cap amount.

    1 energy xfer should be enough to keep a neuted target running it's modules.

    I like the triage paladin being the only focus for my repping, and the ability for it to run everything perma.

    I can focus on reps with paladin and then triggering with the primary eos.

    I'll prob build a mockup of your layout.

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