Effective Raid Healing

[Lilal]

Hey guys,

Back in TBC I tried a bit of shaman triboxing for raid healing, and that seemed to work ok, but from reading up on recent changes is there an effective way to raid heal with boxing still?

Obviously random raid members wouldn't really work in raids (WG ok, but not pve), and i can't really have each toon only target heal one person at a time.

Is there any effective methods to doing this? Can addons target lowest HP player? (I know they can't cast spells, but if they can target and I can then press heal would work)

Any suggestions/opinions would be greatful

thanks Lily

[Khatovar]

I have HotKeyNet configured to use mouseover healing. With my unit frames configured through Pitbull healing is a piece of cake, even going from 5-man to raid. Doesn't matter what healer I use, what toons I'm using, raid, partial group, full group, subbing in alts, as long as the healer is set up with the proper /cast [@mouseover] Healspell, I'm good to go.

[Lilal]

Hey,

Excuse me if I misunderstood, but are you referring to only 1 healer? As I'm assuming if I was using 3-5 healers, they'd all be mouse-overing the same character?

Thanks lily

[HPAVC]

I use mouse pretty exclusively for one and voice commander and some keyboard with the other. I can flip this situation with a KHN binding and do the mouse manually for both off the same screen.

But this is pretty much normal boxing stuff, you still have to deal with the don't stand in the fire crap.

[Khatovar]

Hey,

Excuse me if I misunderstood, but are you referring to only 1 healer? As I'm assuming if I was using 3-5 healers, they'd all be mouse-overing the same character?

Thanks lily

I usually use one healer, but I've used two. It's just a matter of extra code and keys. If you wanted to do 3 healers who all do separate targets, you could configure something like this :

//----------------------------------------------------------
//CHAIN HEALS ONE
//----------------------------------------------------------
<Hotkey Numpad1>
    
    <If MouseIsOverWindowRect WoW1 36 57 274 631>
        <SendLabel w1>
			<SaveMousePos>
			<Clickmouse Noclick 60% 60% Norestore>
		            <Key Numpad1>
			<Restoremousepos>
		<SendLabel w2, w3>
		<Key 2>
	<Else>
	<SendLabel w1, w2, w3>
		<Key 2>

//----------------------------------------------------------
//CHAIN HEALS TWO
//----------------------------------------------------------
<Hotkey Numpad4>
    
    <If MouseIsOverWindowRect WoW1 36 57 274 631>
        <SendLabel w2>
			<SaveMousePos>
			<Clickmouse Noclick 60% 60% Norestore>
		            <Key Numpad4>
			<Restoremousepos>
		<SendLabel w1, w3>
		<Key 2>
	<Else>
	<SendLabel w1, w2, w3>
		<Key 2>

//----------------------------------------------------------
//CHAIN HEALS THREE
//----------------------------------------------------------
<Hotkey Numpad7>
    
    <If MouseIsOverWindowRect WoW1 36 57 274 631>
        <SendLabel w3>
			<SaveMousePos>
			<Clickmouse Noclick 60% 60% Norestore>
		            <Key Numpad7>
			<Restoremousepos>
		<SendLabel w1, w2>
		<Key 2>
	<Else>
	<SendLabel w1, w2, w3>
		<Key 2>

What this will do is if you mouse over a unit frame and hit Numpad1, toon 1 will cast a chain heal on the mouseover target, toons 2 and 3 will register a keypress of 2 {for me, that is my rolling Riptides macro}. If you hit Numpad4, toon 2 will cast Chain heal on the mouseover, Toons 1 and 3 will register 2. If you hit Numpad7, Toon 3 will do the Chain heal and 1 and 2 will press 2. Repeat the setup for the rest of the number pad and you can have separate mouseover keys for Healing Wave, LHW, NS+HW, All Heal Mouseover or whatever other configuration you could want, giving each toon their own keypad row without them stepping all over each other. Of course, with that much going on, I'd probably use the F-Keys or a gamepad instead.

Alternately, you can set up varying regions instead of alternate keys. {This is theoretical since I haven't used this setup!!}

//----------------------------------------------------------
//CHAIN HEALS ONE
//----------------------------------------------------------
<Hotkey 2>
    
    <If MouseIsOverWindowRect WoW1 36 57 180 250>
        <SendLabel w1>
			<SaveMousePos>
			<Clickmouse Noclick 60% 60% Norestore>
		            <Key Numpad1>
			<Restoremousepos>
		<SendLabel w2, w3>
		<Key 2>
	<Else>
	<SendLabel w1, w2, w3>
		<Key 2>
//----------------------------------------------------------
//CHAIN HEALS TWO
//----------------------------------------------------------
<Hotkey 2>
    
    <If MouseIsOverWindowRect WoW1 36 257 180 475>
        <SendLabel w2>
			<SaveMousePos>
			<Clickmouse Noclick 60% 60% Norestore>
		            <Key Numpad1>
			<Restoremousepos>
		<SendLabel w1, w3>
		<Key 2>
	<Else>
	<SendLabel w1, w2, w3>
		<Key 2>
//----------------------------------------------------------
//CHAIN HEALS THREE
//----------------------------------------------------------
<Hotkey 2>
    
    <If MouseIsOverWindowRect WoW1 36 500 180 631>
        <SendLabel w3>
			<SaveMousePos>
			<Clickmouse Noclick 60% 60% Norestore>
		            <Key Numpad1>
			<Restoremousepos>
		<SendLabel w1, w2>
		<Key 2>
	<Else>
	<SendLabel w1, w2, w3>
		<Key 2>

What this configuration does is rather than triggering the mouseover based off which KEY you press, like the above, it triggers based of where your MOUSE is when you press 2. This gives each toon their own "healing section".

If you have your mouse OUTSIDE of the designated regions area {this assumes a column along the left side of your window}, when you press 2, everyone presses 2.

If you mouse over a unit frame in the top third of your "mouseover region", Toon1 registers 2 as Numpad1 and mouseover heals that unit. All others resume with 2.

If you mouse over a player in the second third, Toon2 registers Numpad1 and heals. Toons1 and 3 resume with 2.

If you mouse over a player in the bottom third, Toon3 registers Numpad1 and does the mouseover heal while Toons 1 and 2 resume with 2.

[shaeman]

Are there any healing addons that can sort by health. If yes then i would use
repeater regions (or there equivalent if not using isboxer) and offset the healing add on positions.
So that when the main healer tarfgets the person with least health the slaves are targetting the next lowest and the one below that.

Really depends on a healing addon ordering by health.
Oh and the healing macros on all would have to work on mouseover and not assisting the main)

hopefully something like this is possible

[shaeman]

Bit of research on my part.

I don't think bars can be sorted by health.
or reordered dynamically,so ignore previous post.

[crowdx]

So I would think with Repeater regions and Vuhdo you could assign a different group in vuhdo to a different healer using regions and so effectively heal a raid. The only issue would be that you could not help across groups, i.e. if one group is getting owned you cannot help with a second healer, altough I could think of some workarounds which might work for that too.
Another way would be using modifiers on your spells which would use certain healer using say alt plus the normal heal and this will cast for that healer.
Lots of possibilities I would think

[Ualaa]

You could easily build a macro per shaman.
For each of your healing spells.

Something like [target=mouseover] for each.
But then give each a unique modifier.
Like [mod:alt], [mod:shift], and [mod:ctrl].

So if you are mousing over and have their mod pressed, they will cast.
For shammies, if you were using Clique, Vudho or Healbot.
You could put Riptide on Left Click + their Mod.
And Chain Heal on Right Click + their Mod.